C.Biscuit97

I like aiming high but I’d take a 4th. He’s getting old, he has baggage, he probably won’t be back next year, and the one thing the Bills can do is find running backs.

Another game I won’t be shocked if the Bills win but it would be a terrible loss for the Texans. The Bills should take Hopkins away and forced them to run the ball. Run at JJ Watt and control the clock.

Agree to disagree. The Colts are going to be that feisty team but they are going to lose in the end. It’s basically Andrew Luck.

I think the main problem is they aren’t consistent. They can threw the most amazing pass one play and then bounce a 5 yard pass the next play. What makes Brees, Rodgers, and Brady so great is they are so consistent. imo, Mahomes would have been ok last year as a rookie because KC has a good offense and Reid. But he is thriving this year because he got to learn from Smith/ Reid and work on his mechanics for a year. If Josh Allen had Reid and had to sit for a year, I’d feel much better about his prospects. As much as I didn’t like the pick, I feel we could have put him in a better position to succeed. This is like the EJ plan all over again, which is so frustrating. Consistency and confidence make great qbs and we could be killing that with him. That’s fair. I just remember watching him and thinking I was seeing a nfl star. He was like Vince Young but he didn’t throw like a girl. and of course, Newton came in and set passing records as a rookie.

I watched the entire game. There was not one moment where I felt the Colts were going to win. The Colts got a couple of lucky ints. i hate it but the Pats are the favorites again. Perfect receiving core now and a great balance in the run game. Their defense is their weakness but it might not matter. They had a crazy stat that Belichick is like 23-0 against qbs under 25.

Cam Newton won a JUCO national championship, a heisman in the Sec, and a national championship. There were “experts” like Mayock who had Blaine Gabbert ranked over him but it looks completely stupid looking back. He has an amazing resume to go with he physical skills. Good thoughts. If you look back at the scouting reports/ production/ combine numbers on Bortles and Manuel, they look exactly the same. Yet one was a top 5 pick and one was a huge reach. I think guys guys get hype because they look like they should be good. Hackenberg has no business being a 2nd round pick. He sucked his last 2 years in college. People tried to blame His coach, yet they became a powerhouse after he left. I’ve seen a lot of talk about how bad Wyoming was. They had a top 10 scoring defense. If you are an elite prospect, you should have periods of dominating. Romo and Jimmy G went to the same school and they dominated. Wentz won titles. Matt Ryan made Boston College a good program. Allen has everything you want. But the question is can he consistently get there? That’s what separates the good ones to the fringe nfl qbs.

It was a blowout because the Chiefs are awesome. and asked in anothe thread but it’s super important. They are the number 1 and 2 ranked fantasy qbs this week. I have both. Who do you start? ? They weren’t close to losing. They were in cruise control.

Quick question: I have Mahomes (ranked 1 for the week) and Brady (ranked 2) in my one fantasy league. Who do you start? ?

Interesting point. But I think the problem with guys like Brennan is they lacked physical skills and most likely peaked in college. It’s why I hated Manziel. He simply didn’t have the physical skills. Imo, super college production without physical skills guarantees nothing. Good production plus physical skills equals a high draft pick. And lack of production plus physical skills equals prospect qb, which rarely succeed on the next level. Of course this can happen and I think every Bills fans who doubts Allen would be very happy about this. I’d also point out that Goff had like 50 tds in a power 5 conference and received possibly the best offensive coach in the nfl. Allen wasn’t dominatin the MWC and had Brian Daboll, who has a terrible OC record in the nfl. and the counter to your point is EJ Manuel after his first 4 games, which are completely superior to Allen. And I defended EJ! But I pray you are right.

Lack of production in college but have a lot of physical tools. Think a guy like Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Hackenberg, etc. i

Come on John. This happens all the time. The nfl loves tall guys with big arms. Logan Thomas was talked about as a a 1st round pick before his last year in college. Jake locker got talked about going 1st overall and was like a 50% passer. Blaine Gabbert was talked about a 1st overall pick and had 16 tds in a spread offense his last year in college. These guys get hyped up because of being tall and having good arms. yes, most college qbs won’t make it in the nfl. The problem is some guys have a way higher bust rate than others and since I’m consistent, it’s what I said about Allen before he was on the Bills. If fans were more honest, we would be laughing at Allen if the Jets took him. I would love for him to be the exception to the rule. But based on every offensive personnel and the complete lack of plan this regime has with him, I’m not super optimistic.

Thought this was the game that was going to trip him up. Not his best game but given the opponent, very impressive. I really hope Allen turns into something because PM lols like the next great one.

Fair enough brother. But football can be so much better. Bills fans always seem to have to settle for a water down version of what the rest of the league does.

The 2 yard screens? I mean they worked but they aren’t passes I’m going to tell my grandkids about.

Yeah, we need more threads with people making jokes about Tre White’s mother. It was a legit thread that showed double standards some fans have. But it’s your board so I’ll respect your wishes. I believe they done a good job on the defensive side.

I definitely agree Allen attempts passes Tyrod won’t. But what is the point of drafting a qb with a big arm if you never use it.

This point doesn’t make sense. Are you saying McBeane have more talent this Jauron got more out of his less talent? and SM is a dime a dozen nfl head coach and that’s perfectly fine. I think he could have a good career. He just has way too much power.

Stopped drinking a few hours ago. ?

Tyrod was a 6th rounder who was talked about switching positions in the nfl. Allen is the highest drafted qb in franchise history. So yeah, I expect better performances than this. Haha. What a drive! Our standards for good good football are so low. I get being a homer. I used to be a hardcore one. But go watch other teams. We are like in a different league offensive.

Very fair. But man, sometimes you can just tell. I was one of the last defenders of EJ, JP, and Trent. But there were plenty of signs early. I’m still giving the guy 2 years but I’m very worried about the ability to get offensive players around him. I love St Brown in the draft and I’m watching him make plays with Rodgers. He was a 6’5” freak who went in the 6th.

I heard Eagles fans booing tonight. It is stupid but you can’t get frustrated with your team? We should just be happy with this offense? Im sure Allen is a good dude. But man, other qbs would get killed for this. Sorry for having expectations for the highest drafted Bills qb ever to get 100 yards passing.

Agree 100%. But that’s why I hated the Allen picl. Do you trust the Bills to develop a raw qb? This regime has failed at almost every offensive personnel move. Now, We just have to trust them?

Haha. So predictable. Guess what? For the last 2 years, I wanted to move on from Tyrod. ? i just hate double standards. I hated this games from Tyrod and I hated it today. And Allen has had more of this games in college than people want to admit. It’s worrisome. Positive note. Defense played great.

I’m sorry. I’m venting. Allen was the last guy I wanted the Bills to draft. He seems to have the right attitude but his scouting report is dead on. he is displaying all the things Taylor got killed for.

You realized our qb passed for 80 yard in a W? He “led” a comeback where his coach won’t let him throw the ball past the line of scrimmage?