C.Biscuit97

I guess we forget he was our leading receiver for a couple seasons.

Sure dude. There are plenty of people who trash Jackson while making every excuse for Allen. I had them tied as prospects coming out at the draft and imo, they are still tied. if Allen had Jackson’s production against that level in college instead I’d ehat he did in the MWC, there would be no criticism of him and he’d be the number 1 pick of the draft. But there are totally double standards here (it’s a bills board and I expect that but I call it like I see it) but Allen is closer as a passer to Jackson than Brees. But both are super young and have a lot of ability, so hopefully they both get there because it makes the nfl better.

At the same point, his sack total has been going consistently down. He’s like a Robert Woods. Real solid player but should never be your number 1.

But based on the position of qb, especially Bills one, shouldn’t we assume the same thing about Allen? And im not saying a 1st round pick. But middle to late and/ or bringing in another vet. I just say someone saying we have our Kelly/ Reich and hope the Bills don’t think like that. I completely agree with that. IMO, the first 3 picks need to be oline and receiver.

Yup. You keep bringing in players. And Hoyer and Cassel, as limited as they are, are both spot starters and 10 year backup guys.

Yup, I’ll give him credit for that. I assumed after he went after the ref, I assumed it was Jerry being an idiot again but I was wrong. But the question is how much is a guy getting older who is getting like 7 sacks/ year worth? And Frazier is Jauron after a beach vacation. ?

You’re right. I thought they traded up for him. I’m so stupid!!! ? but my larger point is the team that has the greatest qb ever still doesn’t settle. They took cokehead Mallett, Hoyer, Jacoby, Jimmy G. I think that might be more qbs than he Bills have drafted in the same time. But yeah, I want note options than Allen (hopefully the franchise) and Matt Barkley (dime a dozen backup).

Bills fans: Allen never misses passes, it’s all his receivers and oline fault. He’s a winner. also Bills fans: the Ravens win with Lamar holding him back. Also, he is really a running back. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JackLa00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm i hope they both become better passers and become franchise guys. And it’s hard to explain it, but Jackson just wins. It’s like he was good in college or something.

I’ll be honest. Hughes really pissed me off with all the stupid penalties he used to get. I also fell like the guy who tries to be a tough guy should have proved how tough he was when Gronk took that cheap shot but he was no where to be found. but trust me, Hughes is far from one of the big problems on this team. As others have said, he isn’t a number 1 pass rusher but a complimentary one. And pressures are great but I want more game changing plays from him. But he is a solid starter and does play with a high motor.

Agree. It’s been a good run and hopefully it continues. And I actually found myself pretty sad after the UB basketball and football losses and that’s a good thing. I’m starting to care about those teams. IMO, this is the best Buffalo has ever been in my life. I’m proud of this city and the people raising it up. It’s about time. Troy is a good team and UB just killed themselves. Last 2 games put a bad taste in your mouth but it was a great season and hopefully, Jackson comes back. He could get in the heisman talk if he does.

Tyrod had more wins in the previous 2 years than Rivers prior to Lynn and SM becoming head coaches. Personally, I was happy to move on from Tyrod but people are delusional about how “bad” this situation was compared to the Chargers. The HOF Qb led his team to 9 wins in two years prior to Lynn.

Because Bills fans aren’t allowed to want more. We should just be happy with a team. But they traded up in the 2nd to take Jimmy G when the best qb was ever in his prime. Im fine with taking a qb every year. If Allen doesn’t progress as a passer next year, I want a qb in the first the following year. Never settle.

Holy revisionist history Batman!!! SM took over a team that averaged 8 wins for 3 years, that he “had to” rebuild. Lynn took over a Chargers team that won a total of 9 games in the previous 2 years and is 20-11! I think SM is a dime a dozen head coach but I also wasn’t begging for Lynn either. But you are completely short changing the job he has done. They were terrible before he became their coach. Wow, I just basically typed the same thing haha. They won a total of 9 games in 2 years before him and he is now 20-11. Clearly, he is holding back that team! This is a great post. I think SM is an average at best head coach but he would probably thrived with an established franchise qb. Goff and Mitchell, who were much more polished passers than Allen entering the nfl, took after they fired their defensive head coach and hired an offensive one. there is some belief that Daboll, a guy who if nfl people were doing a poll would rank as bottom 5 OC, is all Allen needs. This team has done a great job with the defensive side of the ball. But man, I worry they are not going to get it right on offense. We throw parties for scoring two touchdowns in a game. It can be so much better.

Well, Peterman was this year and literally has the some of the stats in nfl history. But yeah, if people are still trashing three years after the fact, they are tools. EJ would have the highest qb rating of any QB on our roster.

It’s funny because this could be either a compliment or an insult haha.

I’m self hating because I defend a guy who is getting made fun of no reason except some fans are Richards? Please, I’m an awesome fan and our fan base would be better if we were all like me. ? If Josh Allen works hard, doesn’t get in trouble, but doesn’t make it as a franchise guy, I’m not going to make a thread saying a guy passing for 150 yards is better than him after he leaves. Only a tool would do that. You lead a sad life don’t you? Like you need to pay for it type life, huh? ?

It’s funny because it’s true. They would say Watkins didn’t play so he had no talent. They would blame McCoy for fumbling inside the 10. They would praise Allen for his ability to bounce back from one of the worst 5 minutes of any qb in history and salute his backbone for getting us the lead. They would blame the defense for letting Blake Bortles drive 85 yards to win the game. what a sad and stupid thread. It’s gojng to be super classy when Bills fans trash Allen after he leaves if he doesn’t live up to the hype. Best fans!!! You’re still 5’7” and he made millions in his profession. How about you Lil’ Rico? ? You mean for not making fun of an ex Bill who was a good guy? What a bunch of losers some of our fans are.

More passing yards and points in that any game in Allen’s career. Just saying. Fun fact: EJ would have the 2nd best statistics of any rookie in this class.

A slight difference between having possibly the best QBs of all time and having 2 QBs with QBs rating in the 60s. The main point is we shouldn’t stop locking. Doesn’t mean it has to be a 1st but they need to keep bringing in talent. if Allen turns out to be guy, that’s great and we have possible trade chips. But if Allen turns out like JP and we pass on Rodgers, I’m going to riot!

Huh? I think you are overdriven homer mood. I said I was fine with and responded to someone saying we are set for 5 years. Settle down ?

Agreed. Being ?‍❤️‍? Is their own business. I’m just happy the Bills are becoming so progressive.

Yeah, there was no talent on those last regime’s teams. Far superior group right now.

JJ watt had 11 sacks in college. Dareus was the best defensive player on the national champs. This is the definition of hindsight.

Agreed. It will be funny if some team hires McCarthy. He is the only person who could stop Rodgers. He kept a terrible DC with a terrible rug for years and every other qb he mentored besides Rodgers was terrible. If he gets another job, A A Ron should get a % of his paycheck.

Hughes is more bark than bite at this point. It was a great trade (Whaley sucks!) but he is nothing special as a pass rusher at this point. His career is on the Decline. And that’s with Mario and Dareus being all pros at their position. at least he settle down with his brain dead, fake tough guy penalties.