C.Biscuit97

Cam Newton is completely undervalued on this board. He is a top 10 QB. If Allen is 75% as good as Newton, it will be a great pick. Cam, despite his flaws, has been really, really good since college.

Honestly with all the rule changes, it’s basically impossible to be super innovative on STs. Just don’t be awful. I will say teams are drafting punters and kickers more than ever so that might be something to keep an eye on. Sucks to spend a draft pick on that but Seattle drafted a pro bowl P who really helped their team.

We had one of the best rbs in the nfl to check down too. McCoy was really, really good before last year. A coach at UND and Wyoming had 2 top 10 drafted qbs in 3 years. I think he deserves some credit for that. I do do get what you’re saying about developing qbs in college however. But wasn’t one of the pluses about Allen is that he played in a pro system in college?

Yup, it’s sad. Hell, UB’s coach has a better resume than him.

I always felt bad for the guy. He seemed like a Jauron guy who everyone likes but it’s because he was so nice. Plus, he had that awful thing happen with his son. I like having former head coaches on the staff so I’d welcome it.

You’re the guy (and I do get why and I used to do it too) that ignores years of statically evidence because you want to believe Allen isn’t inaccurate. While there are are plenty of cases of inaccurate colleges qbs getting drafted high and busting, ill point to one who ended up with a borderline HOF career. McNabb had a very good career and I’d gladly have Allen come close to his level. But he struggle with throws that stopped him from becoming a consistent top 5-10 guy. And it wasn’t because of lack of arm strength. He would skip screen passes. He would sail 10 yards passes. There is so much more to be an accurate qb. It’s throwing to guys in space and putting touch on a ball to let them catch and run. Allen is basically a fastball pitcher right now. I agree with a lot of your post. I’d also like to point out that Allen’s coach at Wyoming was Carson Wentz’ college coach. Imo, touch passes are tougher for strong arm qbs than bombs. EJ actually threw a nice deep ball when he just let it rip. He then tried to aim the ball on shorter throws. JP was great on deep balls and sucked on the short throws. Allen has natural arm talent and has relied on it for so long. But those touch passes or taking something off a football are harder for a guy like that than someone like Brees, who doesn’t have a cannon.

Well the good news is when you don’t have many good players, you don’t need to worry about big contracts. Genius.

Good point. I don’t how why we won’t especially given they started doing more designed qb runs. I think McCoy would have really benefited from that.

The buddy system in the nfl is awful. Hackett, who only had a job because his dad, should be coaching in college at best. He is terrible. There are probably hundreds of innovative coaches who will never get their shot because they don’t know the right people or daddy couldn’t help them. the worst part is he will do nothing but if Rodgers is Rodgers, he will get talked up. So dumb. They screwed up any chance EJ had by giving him Nate Hackett as his OC and QB coach. I love this team but they are so dumb.

Ok, as someone who defended the hire, I’m out after that press conference. What was that? ?

Good attitude to have. He may never be an all pro but at worst, he will be solid and a good leader.

Plenty of other guys still on the team who did nothing as well.

What I don’t understand is that normally a mobile qb helps the the running game.

He was 100% right. Not sure why anyone has a problem with it. We had a very talented roster. But its smart what what the new regime did. Trade away/ let talent go and pretend like they had nothing to work with. Good way to buy yourself some time.

Don’t worry. Hyde pushed him a little in the back. This is reminded me of what that idiot from the Bruins ran over Ryan Miller and the rest of the team did nothing.

Well, he certainly was drafted because of his potential. All the skills are there. But I think some of you need to watch some of the touch passes these last 4 qbs make. It’s a different level than Allen currently has.

Love how you didn’t dispute one of my points. Why are Anderson and Barkley, after like a week with the team, more “accurate” than Allen? Or that having a rocket doesn’t mean you throw a catchable football? if Allen was on any other team, we would laugh at him and wonder why a team took such an “inaccurate “ qb that high. He seems like a hard worker and is very exciting. But despite all the excuses, he is going to need to be a more accurate passer next year.

God, we were so soft.

You’re reaching.

1) that was a lot of work so I salute you 2) 49% in junior college, 56% in college, and 52% in the nfl. When does the lack of accuracy ever become Allen’s fault? I’m sorry but the guy is a top 10 pick and the highest drafted qb in Bills history. At some point, can we stop blaming everyone else? 3) Barkley and Anderson, dime a dozen Street FAs, came off the street and both completed 60% of their passes with the same terrible wrs. The 60% was higher than their career average. 4) Eric Ebron was considered a bust in Detroit. He gets with Luck and has a pro bowl season. Did he suddenly get better? Or does Luck throw a more catchable football? This is a thing posters overlook. As a receiver, you don’t always watch to catch a 95 mile per hour fastball. This league is about touch. What separates qbs like Mahomes and Allen, both who have rocket arms, is Mahomes has great touch on his passes. Allen hasn’t shown that. allen is very exciting but the excuse making is getting old. He isn’t that accurate. Accept it. He needs to improve. Hopefully the regime that traded for Benjamin and Matthews and drafted Zay over JuJu And Kupp (plus the 2 undersized guys that weren’t good this year) will suddenly figure out how to evaluate wrs. But no matter how many excuses you make, 52% is terrible.

Good use of ?

Yup and good offensive coaches keep betting on Sammy’s talent. And he’s been on the number 1 offense two years in a row. Lucky dude I guess.

Luck always seems uncomfortable. Great player, weird dude.

Solid sample size there! ☃️

If it was all about production and not talent, Josh Allen would not have been a first round pick.