C.Biscuit97

Has he ever even been a number 1 option on the Pats? How many other players could do similar in the same role? He is another Tom Brady creation like Deion Branch, Wes Welker (again who was a better player than JE), David Patton, David Givens, etc. he is a little scumbag and made a nice career for himself catching 5 yard passes from the best QB ever. But putting him in the HOF just goes a step further in devaluing it.

It’s never his fault. Diva receivers are the worst. It’s finny that most of best receivers never seen to win SBs.

Honestly, despite possibly being the best receiver in the nfl, he’s not worth the headache. As Ryan Clark said, money made him a monster. He literally only cares about himself and being famous. As a former receiver, they are normally the biggest idiots on the team. It’s all about them and they are the most dependent position.

1). KB was a 1st rounder who had 1,000 yard season. Blame the regime that saw him up close in Carolina when he became super fat and deciddd to trade draft picks for him. 2). I like AW but I think he should be a guy who bulks up to be a pass catching TE. He won’t get enough separation against nfl corners. He can be a playmaker in the league. But if the Bills come out with him as their top wr in the draft, that’s a bad move.

Why aren’t other guys testing positive though? I mean I know part of the reason (you ever given the dates of the test well in advance). But as someone who never ever need to take roids or PEDs and played with guys who did, it sucks. You shouldn’t have to be pressured into taking things if you don’t want to. At the same time, I do get the injury recovery part.

I agree about Fitz. I think he biggest problem is he thinks he has an arm like Josh Allen or Mahomes when he doesn’t. I’d venture makes the right read the vast majority of the time. He just lacks the arm strength for some of the throws he makes.

I’m not saying Allen is dumb but he sure ain’t Fitz. Allen was mainly drafted because of his physical traits and potential. Fitz went in the 7th round because of his lack of physical traits and potential, yet had a career better than 90% of nfl qbs. If Fitz had Allen’s natural abilities, he would have been a HOFer.

I think Tyrod gets too much crap now looking back, but was any receiver going to put up great numbers with him? If Clay went to NE with Brady (and no Gronk), he would have been pretty good. Good post. A big reason Clay was signed was because of his versatility.

If you could only put Fitz’s mind in Josh Allen’s body.

❄️

1) Rex is an idiot 2) Clay had some solid seasons here. Injuries definitely were an issue though.

Yeah, this is just heat of the moment stuff. Even if he was a cheap shoting little punk who used PEDs, he shouldn’t get in. He’s not even as good as Wes Welker and there’s no way he is getting in. Does anyone really think Cole Beasley won’t be good catching 5 yard passes from Brady? AS is great at breaking news but his opinions are sometimes terrible.

I’m sick of the kneeling!

Sure teef. The second I do, I will end my time here haha.

Thank you. And if Josh Allen has a MVP season and loses the way Mahomes did in the championship game, please call me a moron if I try to criticize him after.

Honestly, I don’t care at all. I’ve just never seen a good player who never got in trouble, get so much stupid hate. But clearly, things didn’t work out for Gilmore.

If Josh Allen scored 31 points in the title game after passing for 50 tds while carrying the 2nd worst defense in the nfl all year, only a stupid person could somehow find a way to knock him.

Yeah, that was a terrible SB. Only ones that rival that for awfulness were the ravens- giants or the Seahawks- broncos.

Haha. Belichick paid him a ton of money, he got voted 1st team all pro by the media, was PFF’s highest ranked corner. But dlonce says he’s no all pro and that’s what matters!

He was always really good. But some fans are stupid and were bitter that he didn’t smile. Clearly, Belichick thought different. Whaley sucks.

Look, Goff might not be a top 5 qb, but I don’t think teenage girls overreact more to one game than football fans. Yeah, I’d hate if Josh Allen put together back to back seasons where he totaled 60 tds. I definitely would be thinking about a replacement.

Who’s more overrated- the 23 year old quarterback who just went to the SB or the 33 year old coach who went to the SB? Great question. Of course this board puts down MVP Mahomes because he only scored 31 points and couldn’t stop the Pats on defense.

Yeah, that’s my point. Because of guys like Brees, Wilson, and Mayfield, shorter qbs are not falling the way they used to. Brees and Wilson would have been 1st rounders if they came out this year. Charlie Ward in this era would have been given a shot at the nfl.

Great point. When Allen Wins MVP and scores 31 points in the championship, I will consider his season a failure because he wasn’t good enough on defense.

Completely different era. Ward would have been drafted if he played in this current era. Ward was Drew Brees size.