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I mean are we just trying to be a contrarian because it's fun or what? "Never developed a QB" - yah Gannon was a stud before he took over Oakland. "What the players said" - yawn - the players in St. Louis petitioned to bring Haslett back after going 2-10; and we know how our players feel about Dick. 9-7 is 9-7 whether you start 9-3 or 5-7. They are probably the least talented team in the division and if you want to argue that is his fault fine; that doesn't mean they're better off without him as opposed to retaining him & delegating personnel to somebody else. It's also the same people in charge who inexplicably gave up 1,000 draft picks to get him in the first place instead of Dungy; so it's not the first time they've screwed up a hiring/firing.

I get what you're saying but 7-7 is a lot better than 13-7 especially since the Steelers D is better than the Titans. I don't like the Ravens chances here even though i bet on them.

Ya know what's funny is the Sweed fake injury cost them a time out and 3 points.

Looked like PI to me. The Holmes play should've been a catch though.

Horray for justice after that joke of a call.

I'm not sure how that's not a catch.

You realize neither Gruden or Dungy have ever been GM, right?

Shades of last year's Pitt collapse for a while. It is key to hold serve at home in this conference. I also thought the bigs played pretty good D on Goty, made him settle for fadeaways. ND is just really bad defensively.

To summarize: 02 Bucs - Dungy's team. 02 Raiders - Callahan's team. Makes sense.

That's ridiculous, hope he doesn't go to the Jets.

I'm a little surprised by the replies here. Yes it's a bad economy and yes you are unemployed. Those are usually detriments to getting an offer in the first place. When you get that written offer, not so much - they picked you believing you're the best person for the job. A scenerio like dpbillsfan's can happen (though I would have to question whether a written offer was actually in place), but in most cases it's much more difficult to get a raise once you've started working somewhere than during the negotiations process (and that's what it is).

I mean, if Harris was as great as advertised out of High School he'd be in the NBA by now. With the exception of the occasional Nichols, most 6'5" players are what they are their Freshman year. McDonalds AA's aren't always superstars: I guess when you're Duke and you get 6 of them per year you don't need them all to be great; you can count SU's on one hand since John Wallace, so yeah it'd be nice if he was Carmello II but he's not - what can you do. He's the type of "dirty work" player who would probably be a fan favorite if he wasn't so highly touted.

I'm not going to argue about the refs because obv. it didn't make a difference in the game. It's great that you catch that one comment that was made during the game but missed the 200 posts where Devandorf was agreed to be a punk and nobody is arguing. The difference was SU played zero defense and even still G'town likely misses a higher % of shots than that in practice. If G'town's depth, scheme, and talent is so superior I'm not sure why they wouldn't win again in the Dome.

Well just thought weird since it was the only home game of the 3. ND has been better than us the last couple years; I'm not sure about this year - they play about as much defense as SU tonight. Thank God if reports of Rautins being OK are true.

Good to see that Monroe can take 14 steps after we get called for 3 palms.

I thought we were playing ok early @ 10-2 but just missed some layups and every missed layup seemed to bounce right to them. Not sure why JB took a time out there and not in the middle of the half when we were getting run off the freaking floor. Summers is a little b!tch. Rautins play looked awful. F&^% this is a disaster.

That's a weird prediction.

Yah this is why I don't like these threads. Just get good players. We don't have enough on either side of the ball. And turnovers also involve a good deal of luck even if nobody wants to say it.

I don't disagree with this, but the officiating in the 1st half of that game was a joke. 1. Peerless Price caught a 3rd down pass that put us in FG range. Incomplete and not reviewed (inside 2 min's). 2. Next possession after a punt, McNair scrambles on 3rd down, marked short of the 1st down. Time out for a review. 3. Tenn FG no good, flag for defensive holding (what?), re-kick. As for the Beebe play, meh, it was a 1st&10 play in a half where their D gave up 35 points, not some backbreaking call on 3rd down. Hard to think that possession would've gone any differently regardless.

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Put me in the "Iggles fans are dumb and don't appreciate McNabb" camp. I wanted to adopt them as my nfc team since moving here, but it's tough. If only McNabb would leave I'm sure they'll go on to win multiple championships like they did under Bobby Hoying and Ty Detmer eras pre-Donovan.

Cool 3-1. Philly is -3 @AZ. Balt is +5 @Pitt. Obviously I like the Ravens. Not sure yet about the other game. Football Outsiders looks pretty smart after criticism of them overrating the Eagles & Ravens all year.

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I doubt the Giants expected to win easily after getting worked a month ago.

I agree. Even worse was throwing on 3rd&goal from the 2 with 4 minutes left. Run the ball and you kill 15% of the remaining clock or make the Giants use their last time out.