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money ≠ bets. Squares love their road favorites. Those are all 3.5 in most places anyways.

Because you read and hear what you want to read and hear.

I might want to challenge him on his recallection of the Dolphins-Patriots game he mentioned. Miami had an 11 point lead late in that game and NE came back in part because of a cheap pass interference call in the endzone. He made sure to mention they had Ricky Williams but didn't mention Jay Fiedler was their QB. Nor did he mention Miami won the 1st game vs NE handily, or that the Jets ultimately won an arbitrary 3way tiebreaker (the 3 teams were 2-2 vs each other). I dunno did Herm Edwards outcoach Bellichick when they won @NE late in that year? I mean it's pretty hard to defend the guy's defensive prowess if you just look at this year. Definitely interesting to hear a national guy rip a coach so much - they virtually never do because they might want information from them in the future.

What an odd fascination you have with Deion Branch. He was a nobody in Seattle. You're definitely in the minority in thinking he had a better career than Troy Brown. Neither of them is close to a HoF'er though was the point. You also didn't mention how their defense got destroyed by Steve Smith in the Super Bowl.

You can probably find some of the no-calls from the '03 title game online - I'm sorry but it wasn't uncommon for that stuff to be called at the time. The Indy TE's/WR's weren't throwing their hands in the air asking for unprecedented flags out of desparation - they were being mauled. WR's were never open over the middle? I thought Andre Reed made a career out of that. To your point there is very little question the game has been officiated differently the last ~8 years. There is almost no other explantion for the incredible spike in passing #'s accross the league; I was just basically ranting against the hypocricy of nonsensical Patriot fans. It'd have been great if the NFL just didn't start enforcing all the ticky tack stuff to cover up for the fact they butchered a bunch of blatant stuff in a championship game.

I would add that the "rules changing" is a bit of a misconception. The rules were changed in 1978 for Mel Blount. Bill Simmons & the Boston media have launched this successful brainwashing campaign to convince everyone the rules changed for Bill Polian's Colts, when in reality the refs just butchered a bunch of stuff in the '03 AFC championship game (of course when the rules are enforced to the letter of the law and not to the spirit of the game ie Tuck Rule, they say that was a good call...holy hypocricy?). Still in fairness to Brady, even if you accept the premise that the rules did change after 2003, he was doing just fine in '03 with mediocre weapons.

Huh? That's like saying "hey how can you say Walsh and Montana were both good!?" I don't know, they probably were. This is one of the worst defenses in league history. Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

Again, I don't understand the notion fans need to prove they would make better GM's to have the right to criticize our Front Office. Shouldn't the burden of proof be on our Front Office who is actually getting paid good $ and has all these resources we don't that they're better than the fans at these personnel decisions? I would say there is very little evidence of that they are. This is probably why we've sucked for 13 years. Ozzie Newsome being better at drafting than beer guzzling Ravens fans is probably why they haven't sucked. So I guess I don't understand your obsession with this "prove you're a qualified NFL GM or STFU" mindset. It's like saying the QB is off limits to criticism if you can't throw a better ball.

Umm you answered your own ? - you have no control over it. I was sure we would win the last Cowboys SB - just had that feeling all week. Oops.

Cherry-picking examples at different positions than DT (traditionally not really a position that has a steep learning curve) from 25 yrs ago doesn't mean it's a stupid question. What about William Joseph or Dewayne Robertson or Glenn Dorsey - how did their careers start out? If you haven't heard of the first two guys I don't blame you. AJ Green already being a consensus top 3 WR in year 2 with a mediocre QB does not mean nothing. He's going to have a monster career barring injury and everyone knows it.

Get real. If you can't prove you'd have done a better job than our GMs by sitting on your couch on Saturdays getting paid nothing without access to film or scouts under you or interviewing the players themselves or countless other resources front offices do, you have no right to say they've done a bad job.

Well Ngata > Whitner was foresight and the kool-aid crowd complained every time that was brought up too. Granted, Dareus is different as it was almost unanimous we should take him. But I don't think it's asking too much for our front office to be better at this than random fans on message boards. Sadly they have not been.

"Game consumption" is the same. Total NFL consumption is way more, mostly because there is more of it available. That's part of what makes these 13 years so frustrating. The last time the Bills were good there was no NFL Network, no espn radio around the clock, no podcasts, et al mostly devoted to good teams...Just Chris Berman & Tom Jackson on Primetime, and a Pro Football Weekly that my dad used to buy. It sure seems like a way worse era for your team to suck now than 20yrs ago.

The Bills front office? Have y'all not been following the NFL for the last decade?

A lot of weird nominations. The 91 team that went 13-3? The meaningless Losman fumble vs the Jets for a team that was going nowhere? The 8-0 Browns game? Dallas MNF I can understand even though that team was going nowhere because it was Dallas and it was Monday night. I doubt any nfl team has lost since with 3 non-offensive TD's - just impossible. Pittsburgh '04 also understandable but to me that sorta was a playoff game. I just sorta felt "where the f*** is this team going to win on the road if they can't beat back-ups at home?" At least that was my excuse for not getting depressed about it.. For the playoff drought years I would probably vote for the Nate Clements Jacksonville '04 opener. Absolutely brutal. Felt like it'd cost us a playoff spot & it did. Prior to that, "just give it to 'em" seems like a good choice. Cost us homefield & a perfect 4-0 vs Miami in the playoffs. 'Nuff said.

Right. Sort by sacks ---> become expert. Makes since seeing as how Peppers didn't get to play the 2012 Cardinals - one of the worst OL's in modern history. Never mind that he was actually getting doubled teamed or that he helped Izzy Idonije have a career year or that the defense wasn't a pathetic dumpster fire.

Sometimes I don't know what's worse - our defense, or these incredibly lame "hindsight" accusations. Sorry if the coach made a dumb move that happened to not work, but ya know what? When he makes a dumb move that does work, the slightest criticism is attacked by the kool-aid pack of wolves with the invariable "you're an idiot, we won, some Bills fans are never happy" posts. Make up your mind. Is it ever ok to call out a coaching decision or not, and if so when - does the game have to end in a tie? Kicking that FG was dumb, though probably less dumb than last year's Oakland game - kicking a FG on 4th&1 down 14-0. I suppose saying that was a good call because we won by 3 isn't hindsight at all? Indeed, Chan had a crystal ball that Donald Jones would make a clutch 4th down catch in traffic and then bat down a game-losing interception on the last drive so that we wouldn't lose by 4 points.

Would love this as well.

That really is incredible. Seems like a good time to scoop up Kevin Walter off the fantasy waivers.

That's actually what brings a lot of fans back I think. It has happened overnight to a lot of other teams in this league and does happen just about every year. It's much harder to suck to the extent to the Bills have than the KC Royals.

As Schopp said on the postgame, coaches/announcers seem to think the pat is worth 5pts and the 2pter is worth 6. They don't seem to understand that all points aren't equal. The difference between -1 and -2 is mostly a figment of people like Jim Nantz's imagination. "Ya know Phil if the +2 team scores they're up 9 and it's a 2possession game!". The flaw in this thinking is rather obvious - which is that an 8pt game is 1possession only if your team can make a 2pt conversion - a conversion that isn't magically more likely to be converted when there is less time on the clock.

How original.

Are you saying it's the QB's job to find the open guy? Here at TBD we like to pretend like the guy who got the target was the only eligible receiver on the play to make excuses for our garbage QB's.

Severely overrated? Almost everyone thinks he's good, not elite. So for him to be overrated he must not be any good. No kidding he's not worth a 1st.

Yeah, I linked this in the preseason, but it does a good job of explaining that players' lists can be stupid. http://www.grantland...00-players-list Pretty hilarious that any underrated list would have 4 RB's in the top 7. In this day&age of fantasy football it's pretty much impossible for a RB to be underrated, even one who plays for a relatively obscure team like Jacksonville.