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Epic failure of analogy as Westbrook was trying to win the game, not "not run up the score". Anyway I might be in the minority having not bitched about NE doing it last year, so whatever...they're pros not high school kids.

WTF can the Colts get anymore calls?

True, though the easy part of the Jets schedule is mostly in front of them. 4 road wins in all 3 division games and Tennessee is pretty damn good.

Yep. Also wishful thinking op predicting Baltimore to lose every home game...they beat up the Steelers already with their rookie QB playing the first road game of his career....

See what happens when you play the Chiefs?

Except Trent is better. I will say that it is becoming increasingly difficult to not buy into the "he can't play in the cold" theory.

The RCA Dome was grossly overrated to begin with. I guess the myth of that building exists because they struggled in Foxboro in January and killed Denver at home a couple of times; but outisde of that that they've won @Baltimore, @KC, and choked at home as the #1 seed three times. Manning's home/road records are very close in the regular season as well. There's some merit to what he's saying though - teams like Washington seemed to have completely lost their HFA.

No that's not really an issue with me; I just haven't seen much value in their lines this year. The Jacksonville win I think boosted the Bills respect level in Vegas quite a bit. I was close to picking against them in St Louis when they were giving 8.5 and vs. the Jets 5.5, but didn't feel quite strong enough about either... Still think I was on the "right" side of last weeks game. -4 turnover table equals blowout usually. I may go back to us vs. Miami in a few weeks if we're giving less than 3 provided Trent gets his head out of his ass by then.

I'd just go w/ Gore & Brown. I guess all things being equal you'd rather play the Bills than the Pats, but it's not like it's the difference between the Steelers & Broncos...they're both middle of the pack run defenses this year.

Week 12 Pittsburgh -10 vs. Cincy - Not my style to lay a double digit # obviously. When I try to guess the lines before they come out, I'm pretty much always within 2 points. Here I was off by 4 predicting 14. So that's that. Baltimore -1 vs. Philly - Should be a standard FG line if not more imo. Atlanta -1 vs. Carolina - The more I think about this pick the less I like it to be honest, but I'm going to stick with my initial instinct. Panthers are the better team but Delhomme needs to step it up because Deangelo Williams isn't going to carry your offense against a halfway decent team on the road. Like the Falcons in a bounceback week. Green Bay +3 @ New Orleans - Obviously I like this Packers team, who is becoming my NFC version of the Ravens. They're the better team getting a full 3, they do everything well except stop the run which the Saints don't try to do anyway. Last Week: 3-2 YTD: 21-12

This is very true. We're really going to talk about Evans "wide open" on the opposite side of the field after the CB stops playing him because the QB is scrambling the other way....this happens all the time...stick to hockey Paul. Please note I'm not saying Edwards didn't suck.

Seeing as how their kicker just drilled a 56 yarder, you're assuming their average field position would've been their own 10 yard line when you make your "50 yards' estimation?

Even I can't defend that train wreck...."hey lets settle for a 50 yard chipshot into the wind"!

I think that's a fair point. They just suck at identifying good linemen both in college and the NFL.

It's nice that you joined in May '08 and are now accusing everyone of hindsight, but there was a large contingent who thought the Whitner picked sucked at the time.

5 wallbash's because Ngata currently plays in a 3-4.....seriously? The 13-3 Ravens team played 4-3 in his rookie year it's easier for a 3-4 NT to play DT in a 4-3 rather than vice versa anyway.

Baltimore opens -1 vs. Philly which seems silly to me, so I want to go on record as taking the Ravens now in case the line moves to 3 or whatever. The end of the Chargers-Steelers was an all-time gambling moment....kinda glad I had no part of that.

I think it's fair to call the parade of turnovers in Miami a bit of a fluke. OTOH we were pretty lucky to be up 9-7 at the half and only down 17-16 before those turnovers started...I'm sure Miami fans felt like we did at halftime of the Jets game..."how are we losing"?

That is true. Again though they're only an underdog in 1 remaining game to our 3. I realize they can blow another "Oakland" game or whatever to Seattle or SF, but that's no more likely than us losing to @KC. Plus we're going to lose the tiebreaker even if we beat them - it's a bigger uphill battle than the standings may indicate.

Yep, it's going to be on the pregame shows & talked about as the "turning point" as the Jets are hosting a wildcard game... I think they won the division tonight.

I laughed. Really though, the Pats never kill themselves like that....so annoying.

It's clearly better for the Bills if NE wins. Both teams are 3-1 in the division with a win but the Jets get us & Miami at home and are going to be favored in every game after Tennessee next week. The Pats have to come to our place and Miami's, in addition to playing Pittsburgh.

This is the "rally the troops after playing like crap for 2-3 weeks in a game we're favored to win against a blah team at home". It's a game even bad teams frequently win and it's a game the Bills have been winning for years (think Rams 04, Chiefs 05, Packers 06). As an added bonus it's on MNF. So no I'm not going to feel more optimistic because I've seen this movie way too many times. Wake me up for the Jets rematch when we're 9-4, which we'll have to be to do anything this yr.

Week 11 NYJ +3.5 @ New England - The Jets seem to have enough bulk to come close to matching the Pats in the trenches, and I think they have a solid enough edge at the skill positions to make this close to a pick 'em. Homefield hasn't meant much in this series, with the Jets last two wins coming @Foxboro in '02 and '06. Houston +9 @ Indy - This Texans team has some pretty large home/road splits, so I don't want to be influenced by them killing the Colts in Houston before giving the game away, but hell it's a big number, presumably in part to Roethlisburger giving one away of his own last week. Jacksonville +3 vs. Tennessee - Big rivalry, physical game, home dog playing for their season vs. an undefeated team in November. Sounds good. Friday Edit: Green Bay -3.5 vs. Chicago - Lets just get the bad news out of the way first: the Packers rate of defensive TD's isn't sustainable and they had no business ever attempting a game winning FG in Minny last week. On the plus side, they are the best 4-5 team in the league by a mile (Football Outsiders agrees ranking them at #7 this week). I still think they're the best team in this division and obviously they can't afford to fall 2 games back. Orton is iffy and even if he's a go I expect he'll struggle against one of the better secondaries in the league. Buffalo -5 vs. Cleveland - What the hell, I don't see the Bills losing this game. Basically it is a standard circle the wagons game which is a spot the Bills traditionally excel in, so I'll take my chances that the 5 is covered. As an added bonus I think the ability to confuse inexperienced QB's with some complex defensive schemes is one of the few things our coaching staff does well, so I expect a methodical 24-17 win of sorts. Last Week: 2-1 YTD: 18-10-1

Never seen a more entertaining poorly played game.