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At this rate, I almost feel like the first 30 plays should be scripted. Even Peterman looked good with the scripted plays in LA until he hit a wall.

Preliminary week 16 map, courtesy 506sports.com: RED = Buffalo @ New England (incl AK/HI)BLUE = LA Chargers @ NY JetsGREEN = Miami @ Kansas CityYELLOW = Denver @ WashingtonORANGE = Cleveland @ ChicagoCYAN = Jacksonville @ San Francisco (late)

She's what I would have expected out of a 'E' team NFL crew. Nothing insightful, made several mistakes, lacked polish, and was repetitive. I can't remember if she made reference to Jack Nicklaus being the grandfather of Nick O'Leary... bonus points if she didn't. Feely was just as bad. Of all the CBS crews, I prefer Harlan/Gannon. I think Kevin Harlan is excellent at PBP and Gannon is a decent color commentator. Romo is better but I don't care for Nantz.

Eh, they're overdue for a crushing defeat - their losses this season have all been pretty clear cut. Watch them go up 21-0, then given up 28 unanswered with Brady scoring on the last play of the game on a McKelvin-esque muffed punt.

One of these was called a touchdown... the other wasn't. Guess which call went which way?

I don't see any incontrovertible video evidence that his hand wasn't underneath the ball while it moved. More likely that it hit the ground? Sure, but that's not the standard to overturn a call. There is no conclusive angle that shows for sure that it hit the ground and not some part of his hand. Shocking that the resident Pats fan shows up and rubs salt in the wound. Just shocking.

So Buffalo controls its own destiny now? If they go 10-6 they make it?

This **** only happens to NE*.

Exactly my thoughts. I almost wish they win this week to avoid being the punching bag for them.

I bet this is a play to increase club ticket sales in anticipation of capturing more sales for the new stadium project. When I go to the games, I always pick up tickets in one of the sideline clubs. The seats themselves have excellent sight lines and the club amenities are nice without removing you from the stadium atmosphere. The restrooms are cleaner, the annoying drunks are quickly taken care of, you can watch Sunday Ticket after the game while waiting for traffic to clear... it's money well spent if you're planning to go to the game.

I still don't understand why we can't get a HC that makes good in-game decisions around things like 4th down, challenges, etc.

The WNY county governments suck. Niagara County charges for access. Erie has almost nothing available through their website. As much as I rail about King County and Seattle's annoying leftism, the property/document search provided by the recorder's office is excellent.

It would seem incredibly easy to fabricate a complaint against someone you seek revenge against. I'm not saying these accusations aren't credible, but the prevailing feeling here is that these guys are guilty until proven innocent. Given the sheer volume of complaints recently, I have to believe less than 100% of them are credible.

The NFL would have been better off with an expansion team in LA. Ever since the Cleveland debacle I think it's become unpalatable for sports fans to root for teams that have moved in an attempt to 'punish' the owner who moved the team. I mean, if you had lived in LA and were an NFL fan, why would you all of a sudden root for some recycled team that used to be in San Diego or St. Louis? It doesn't make sense. Expansion teams are the only legitimate situation where you can turn your fan card in and root for a different team. Living in Seattle, it appears that I'll get the chance to do that with the NHL in a few years. The Sabres haven't done a whole lot to keep me as a fan...

In these kinds of situations, I just ask myself, "What would Bill Belichick do?" He'd have gone for it. Obviously.

Nah, this will go to overtime and end 0-0...

This is why: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200711180buf.htm Up 35-7 in the third quarter, on fourth and goal, Patriots go for it and score a touchdown. Up 42-10 in the third quarter, on fourth and 1 from the BUF 10, Brady throws for a first down rather than going for a field goal. Did the Bills defense suck? It sure did. But you want to know why opposing fans have a high dislike of New England*. This is why. I could point to numerous examples in the past but this is the game I am most intimately familiar with and it just eliminated any shred of respect I had for that team.

I sat through the 2007 game where the Bills were pummeled 56-10. They certainly ran up the score in that game - going for it on fourth down on the cusp of field goal range, keeping Brady in that game through the third quarter, etc. They do this all the time. Arrogance? Look at Brady's instragram feed from after the game. That most recent picture he has up there is a textbook example of why other fans don't like the guy.

I think likeability has a lot to do with it. The Steelers in the '70s and the 49ers in the '80s were two dynasties that I have zero problem with. The two I really don't like are the '90s Cowboys with Jerry Jones/Jimmy Johnson and '00 with Kraft/BB/Brady. Each of those two teams gave you plenty of reason to dislike them besides their on-field success - cheating, arrogance, running up the score, etc.

Agreed. For the first time this season, I'm reasonably happy with the play calling. This half was another textbook example of why the QB position needs to be upgraded.

Preliminary map, courtesy of 506sports. RED = New England @ Buffalo (incl AK/HI)BLUE = Kansas City @ NY JetsGREEN = Cleveland @ LA Chargers (late)YELLOW = San Francisco @ ChicagoORANGE = Houston @ TennesseeCYAN = Indianapolis @ Jacksonville

This was the game where Terrence McGee returned a kickoff for a touchdown, and some woman in the crowd won a car, no? The SNF debacle is the worst for me. I flew out from Seattle to watch that game, and I stayed for the entire thing. I then fly down a week ago to watch the Chargers and see that pile of crap.

People react differently to the shock of 17 years without the playoffs. This is particularly true during kool-aid type seasons where the team looks unbeatable and then the bottom just falls out. Let people react how they react. Given how frustrating it is to root for this team, I no longer judge anyone based on their reactions to the team's performance. At this point, just about any emotion can be justified.

Well, I can guarantee 19 of 19 people will pick NE* and Brady to win... so if being the underdog improves their performance next week, all the better.

This. TT is better than Peterman but this team will not win more than 8 or 9 games playing like this. After this season, it is time to move on rather than prolong this.