deep2evans

lol at the Sabres = Redskins comment. The Sabres were already a top 10 hockey club, now they might be top 5 and trending upward.

whatever. think what you want. you think you're positive, objective, and optimistic. i think you're on valium. yes John, I actually do think we could have replaced the o-line faster. we spend the #8 pick last year on a mother!@#$ing gimmick running back. we spend the 2nd, 3th, and 4th rounders this year on defenders. levitre isn't good, he doesn't even start anymore. and wood sucked last night. he got rocked by guy who was cut 2 weeks ago. you can call it a losers mentality all you want, but i think that's an absolute joke. i call it like i see it. saying that the bills are barely an NFL team is one of the most obvious observations I can possibly make. especially when you compare our roster to other teams, it's a horror show.

i have no desire to say "i told you so". that's not my style. i don't want to bills to struggle. but i watch the games, i look at the roster, and i see mediocrity. the attitude amongst the fans will change once the product on the field changes. you're not going to get one without the other. because that my friend, is just blind, foolish optimism that doesn't do anyone any good.

i'm flattered you have me in mind. "have the smarts that things are looking better"? umm, things are looking better? this is news to me. every guy we've hyped up has looked like ****. the receivers from the #2 spot on down are garbage. the o-line is worse than some DII programs. spiller is struggling. the pass defense looks awful. sheppard can't get on the field. and we just got rid of ANOTHER 1st round pick. the last 3 (mckelvin, wood, spiller) looked like complete crap against denver. lol i mean really, go ahead and call me negative, call me pessimistic - i don't give a ****. i don't see how a single thing i said is even debatable. lastly, why even make the comment that "i should move on from the bills"? do you think my opinion of the team makes me less of a fan than you? cause that's pathetic. you are example A-1 prime that people are willing to believe anything they hear in order to lessen the blow of failure. there's always an excuse, always something to fall back on. what a joke.

lol i really, really, really can't believe people are actually making the excuses that "well, um, we couldn't chip block on the o-line!" and "denver blitzed us!!" jesus christ - after making 11 years worth of excuses like this you'd think people would learn. at some point, you'd think the light would go on and people would understand that the whole system needs to be blown up.

yea, i'm thrilled they suck... what ridiculous logic. how am i, and others, not "looking at things objectively"? the team is pathetic, there is a lack of talent on the roster, and were dominated by a bottom 5 team. are these things not all facts?

i'll take it a step further. if you can ACTUALLY come on this board last night/today and start calling people "negative" and ****, i have to assume you're either 14 years old and have zero concept of what the past 10 years were like, or you're heavily medicated and can get to a place of euphoria inconsistent with reality. for 10 years we've been hyping up 3rd stringers and watching them fail, watching 1st rounders bust out, over and over and over. is there anything different about marcus easley, arthur moats, cj spiller, and leodis mckelvin??

lol @ negative nancies. seriously. it takes a lot of balls and a lot of ignorance to call Bills fans negative when all they are doing is replaying the last 10 years with every missed block and every dropped pass. it's getting to point where if you're sitting on your own island of puppies and rainbows where "it's okay guys, we didn't scheme!" or "c'mon fellas, we need time to gel"...well frankly you sound like a !@#$ing idiot with no concept of reality. we'd have like 2 players on our roster start on the patriots.

exactly. people saying "we had 4 wins last year, could've won a few a more, so we should be better"...ehh, not so fast. at this point, it's hard to imagine this offense putting up more than 10 points a game. the o-line looks significantly worse. which could make fitz look significantly worse. the #2 WR is awful, and spiller still isn't showing anything. it could be an epically bad unit this year. 2 wins is not out of the question.

i can't tell if you're joking. who gives a flying !@#$ about the score. our 1st teamers got dominated and would've lost by 30.

this whole post is weird as !@#$.

is this serious? being a bills fan is like loving your drug addicted, alcoholic, criminal child. loyal to the cause no matter what, but not agreeing with decisions..

lol jesus christ. i should leave because i think we suck? there's a difference between a bandwagoner and a non-koolaid drinker. apparently the difference has become lost on you.

as long as the same owner is meddling in personnel decisions, you have to question every move that is made. i'll give you that buddy deserves a fair shot though, no doubt. as for the draft busts - i really don't know what to tell you man. maybin was as obvious a draft bust as any player in YEARS. everyone and their grandma knew haloti ngata was going to be a stud. these are just facts. lastly, my opinion of the bills has nothing to do with how optimistic/pessimistic i am. the two concepts are completely unrelated. my thinking that the bills are garbage doesn't label me as a pessimist, it just shows i've had a pulse for the past half decade. i refuse to sit here and be like, "yea donald jones will be awesome, merriman will be a pro-bowler, d. bell is our OT answer, spiller will break out, etc.." it's just blind, hopeful, bull ****. give me some concrete improvements in the form of GOOD PLAYERS and WINS. then we can start talking.

well, you're wrong. i'm not at all. i just watch the games, look at the roster, and make opinions. for the past 4-5 years, i've been on point. and sorry pal, the "coaches know more than fans" point is not only drawn out, but just all around weak. i knew orakpo and ngata would be better than maybin and whitner respectively. so did 90% of bills fans. kind of questions your faith in the whole operation at OBD doesn't it

well said, that's exactly how i feel. really? you think you can just figure out someone's life outlook/perspective/mindset because of their opinion of the bills? that's really, really pathetic. i'm actually a very optimistic guy by nature in just about every aspect of life. regarding the bills, i think you'd have to be !@#$ing simple to expect a 9 win season like some people on here.

lol god you guys are ridiculous. i'm sorry, i'll jump on the bandwagon of blind optimism. i'll ignore that we have the worst o-line in football and that our #2 WR probably wouldn't start on the other 31 teams. how about the fact that we have ZERO 1st round picks on our roster that have lived up to their draft spot (wood is questionable - he's been decent). it's staggering to think about the lack of talent on the roster. i'd argue we don't have a single player who is top 15 at their position other than kyle williams and MAYBE shawne merriman, and that'll only be true if the stars align and he stays healthy and returns to form. but no - these aren't valid points, because only on twobillsdrive do we need to "be more optimistic" for absolutely no !@#$ing reason. sure, we have a nice #3 overall pick but ****, anything can happen. it's insulting (and borderline insane) to be told to expect better things every year when nothing changes. isn't that the definition of insanity? i'll continue to root passionately for the team and try to be as objective as i can, but as of right now, it's crazy to actually expect more than 5 wins.

why? there's zero reason to be optimistic yet until we start winning some games. another 2-3 more drafts, and 5-6 more players of dareus' quality and then we're talking.

best draft in a decade? sure, but it doesn't say much. some of the drafts in the past 10 years and some of the worst in NFL history. we need to string 4-5 nice drafts together in a row.

i'm sick of hearing this ****. our offense sucks. if lee evans doesn't fit your offense, but 4 URFAs do, you change your offense.

really? going to compare last year's stat lines to his first half in a preseason game? evans numbers will light up stevie's this year.

how can any bills fan actually sit here in say we KNOW we're better than anyone? it just sounds ridiculous. we're a bottom 3 team in all of pro sports for the past 10 years, yet we get offended if someone says we'll be last in the division?

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same owner dude. same owner who didn't want orakpo. same owner who (probably) forced nix's hand by having him cut salary (evans).

i'm been posting/lurking on this forum since the Mike Williams draft. your name stands out more than most because i used to agree with you a lot - you're an optimistic guy who never finds fault in the bills for anything (draft picks, trades, cuts, FA pick-ups, coaching hires). but now it's just a joke really. this team has SUUUUCKED the entire time frame i just referenced, yet everyone else is a "chicken little" because they're pissed we traded one of our best players away for a 4th round pick? for how long do i need to be told "we're rebuilding" or "it's a 3 year plan"? it's been a 3 year plan since 20 !@#$ing 01. now we trade away a legit NFL WR so a scrub rookie FA can fill the spot? or so we can take that 4th rounder and draft a speed WR so we hope to god he can turn into lee evans? how many times do we have to lose a starter just to have to replace him with a worse player or a draft pick? (winfield, clements, greer, fletcher, pat williams, henry, mcgahee, lynch, peters, and now evans). seriously dude - i used to be in your camp. but how in the christ can you rip on the collective board for "reacting to every move the same way" when EVERY MOVE TURNS OUT THE SAME WAY! failure. 8-9 years later this team STILL can't compete, but we're all overreacting bitches. whatever.