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No they actually have the maturity to be objective like me. We like bills wins, but we can sure see how far we have to go and what needs to be changed to get there.

!@#$ you can't even say that right! TIMMUH!

Typical childish response.

And we have you to follow posters around spewing your sh-- ad nauseum as well.

Translation = Truth. Truth = something not wanted nor accepted on this board

WTF are you talking about. TONS of Bills highlights during the game. At the bar we had every damn game on. The KO return, the Long TD to Evans and PW's int were all on. Not only that CBS voted mcGees return something like their highlight of the day or some sh--?

Very dumb statement. Facts are we are not winning a superbowl this year. Facts are with the current QB situation as it is...we will never win one.

If you cared about the Bills beyond this season then you would have been right.

The only bandwagon that has ever existed on TSW has been the QB bandwagon. Since Kelly left we have not had a real starting leader at QB. Until we get one people will keep hanging their hopes and keep defending this parade of BACKUPS that management wants to pimp off as starters.

How many cinci games have you seen this year? ONLY BY STARTING THIS YEAR has he started to develop. BTW...facts? Cinci has the same record as us with a ROOKIE playing QB. Yes you are a rookie (just like McGahee) until you PLAY. FACT: Palmer has grown by playing, he sucked the first couple of weeks out. FACT: Rothlesburger has done the same...by playing.

Will never happen. And please don't ever use that QB's name in the same sentance as a Great like Kelly again. It pisses on all that the greats have done. None of us that have a realistic view will go down in flames. We will be the ones standing pointing out moronic assclowns like yourself that put player above team WHEN we win a superbowl with the right man at the helm.

Ummmm no. I said give the kid a chance. We did, he failed. TD made the decision knowing this to keep RJ over flutie, not me. As for being PC, that's not me. As for being wrong, sometimes, not often. funny how after time my stances are proven correct. So Again I will wait and you will see. We will never achieve anything with our current QB situation. Keeping JP on the bench means WHEN he does start, we must suffer through some growing pains. Rothlesburger and Palmer have grown this season by playing...not sitting.

HA! Love it!

NE and Pitt will have off weeks. We will travel to Indy. Scarry thought here...no pressure on Manning and him firing at will against our secondary? That ought to give you a few sleepless nights

No here is the truth...."you are what your record says you are". We lost those games because we wern't good enough to win them. End of discussion.

Actually yeah dumb ass. Fox is a winner and can get a bunch of scrubs to fight hard enough to get back into the playoff hunt. Let most teams lose 14 players including the stars that they have lost and see how they do.

Here is the funny, they have all tiebreakers over the other 5-7 teams and are 1 game out of the final NFC Wildcard. Wouldn't just be the sh-- if they make it all the way back and upset Philly in a play off game

From Lenny P.... "Coaching them up As has been the case the past few seasons, there are an abundance of legitimate coach of the year candidates for 2004. Bill Belichick. Andy Reid. Bill Cowher. Jim Mora. Marty Schottenheimer. But the man who is perhaps doing the best coaching job in the league at this moment, John Fox of Carolina, certainly deserves a shout-out. Fox won't win the award. Heck, his team might not even make the playoffs, not after a 1-7 start marred by so many injuries. But the fact that the prideful Panthers and their coach didn't long ago throw in the towel on this season -- and, Lord knows, they had justification for doing so -- truly is remarkable. Fox suggested, following Sunday's 33-21 victory at New Orleans, that the Panthers have "become a new football team." We hate to disagree with a guy whom we are lauding but, in winning for the fourth straight time and remaining on the fringes of playoff contention, Carolina has persevered because it hasn't changed its MO very much at all. Indeed, at a time when some teams are just chameleons, the Panthers retain the same formula that drove them to a Super Bowl berth only a year ago. The difference is that they are making plays now. Quarterback Jake Delhomme, so error prone just a month ago (seven touchdown passes offset by eight interceptions during an ugly six-game losing skein), has thrown for eight scores and just two pickoffs in the four wins. Nick Goings, basically the team's No. 4 tailback, has strung together three straight 100-yard outings, including an impressive 36-carry, 122-yard game on Sunday afternoon. Aging wideout Muhsin Muhammad (10 catches for 179 yards on Sunday) has resurrected his career. Defensive end Julius Peppers has become both a force and a leader. But it all starts with Fox, a sort of human rudder for the Panthers, and he certainly has righted the ship. The Panthers still play sound football, run the ball, count on winning close games. And, oh, yeah, they still count on kicker John Kasay, too, who hammered home six field goals in the Superdome. This is a team that, because of 14 injuries and the loss of its top two tailbacks, most explosive wide receiver and best defensive tackle in the league, lost its already skinny margin for error. But it has persevered and, for that, Fox deserves a nod." I agree 100%. 1-7 and they cowboy up after such devistating injuries. but hey...he doesn't interview well....

Two things... 1) I dont comment on that certain player anymore 2) JP will be nothing as long as he sits the bench. Just remember I called it when it comes time. You guys will call him a bust and be in his ass the entire season it takes him to develop ON THE FIELD. And I will be here to remind you over, and over and over how it would have been better to have done it now.

Since some are calling me out by name. We damn near lost to the 2nd worst team in all of football. They have an part time head coach and it still took.... 7 turnovers... A Kickoff return for a TD... A Defensive return for a TD.. To beat the 2nd worst team in all of football.

Be a good little B word and STFU. We damn near lost to the 2nd worst team in football. It took 7 turnovers a ST Touchdown and a Defensive touchdown or we get blown off of the turf.

And if he is then average is all we will ever be.

I have a better idea. A confrence win does NOT give you an automatic bid. Make all teams earn it. I guarentee you SOS will go UP for all top teams if you take away the guarenteed bid Now take the top 8 BCS Teams and have a playoff. Pretty damn simple to me. Oh and take the vote away from the media PERIOD! Let all 117 NCAA div I coaches vote and have the computers do their deal. Then the biased is greatly negated.

As a fan whos team is seemingly always going to be in the thick of this....I will add my two cents. Honestly...USC is a joke. Weakest schedule of all 3. Weakest W/L record for opponents of the three. Weakest Non confrence schedule. So either OU or Auburn will get screwed. This last offseason the MEDIA got it's wish. THEY want to control who goes. That is why the left coast WEAKER team will finish #1. USC to me will get beat by either OU or auburn. They are VERY Weak against the run. OSU (ok state) beat the sh-- out of UCLA early in the season. V. Morancy put up over 200 yards rushing on them. This is why Reggie Bush doesn't impress me. BTW...go see how many VM put up on OU....not much. As for Auburn, the SEC usually is a great confrence, but go look at the records this year. It's not as tough as last year that is for sure. Auburn screwed it's self by agreeing to play a NCAA Division II team this year. Volunteered to play them. You don't do that if you want to play for a national championship. OU? is BETTER than last year. MUCH Better. They are a much more complete team. They don't rely on just Jason White. You do and AP will put up 200 on your ass. Shut him down and White will burn you for 300 and 4 TD's. Weakness? Secondary? Well it was due to 2 reasons. We had to start a Freshman at corner due to our top CB Being out until yesterday. We lost the top DT in the nation in Dusty Dvoracek. We had to start another freshman that was pulling a mike williams in Moe Dampeer in his stead. We lost another starter and one back up on the DL to injury. FINALLY OU has it's sh-- together from top to bottom. Look someone is getting screwed. If it is OU so be it. We go to a BCS Game and are going to finish no worse than #3 in the nation. How many times in the last 6 years has OU finished in the top 6 in the last 6 years? I can live with that. To be in the top 5 or so and in the race EVERY year? Damn guys I can sure as hell live with that. Knowing you are always in it, you WILL play for it from time to time....Not too bad in my opinion. What if OU Goes and loses again? Well folks I root for a team that lost 4 straight superbowls. I think I can live with it esp when we EARNED the right to get there. As for NCAA in general, it's a fuggin joke. It's all about the benjamins and we all know it. We will never have a playoff system with the current people in charge of the confrences. Long story short, it should be OU and Auburn. They have better strength of schedule, better non conf SOS and a better opponant W/L record AND Both won their confrence championships.