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I'll say it again. If McD came out this morning and said Peterman was starting at KC he deserved to be Fired on the spot. Coaching career suicide.
So anyway, have at it Peterman fans. I do hope the guy can dust it off and compete in 2018 training camp.
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10 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said:
I don't get it either.
People need to understand that Peterman may have played himself out of a career last week. I don't know if you can come back from a game like that in today's NFL. He's not going to just dust himself and be fine like McD and board koolaid drinkers like to think.
Protect his psyche, start Tyrod, play boring football for the rest of the season, and get a real QB next year. Simple stuff.
Sadly, i think you are right. I listened as two prominent former players were guests on Sirius this week. They said the Bills made the move to Peterman and that was his audition. They said it failed and Buffalo will NOT be going to Peterman again. They can't. They all agreed Tyrod will start the remaining games (unless an injury) and Nate will be fortunate to find a place as a 3rd string backup someday. We will be drafting a QB early in 2018.
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6 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
Well then that's a real shame. We had a legitimate shot at getting one of the better QBs in this draft and FINALLY fixing the position.You'll know it's over if that doesn't happen in the 2018 draft and instead they take a DT because we just HAD to push to .500 this year.
You don't have to stink anymore and be #1 to get your QB. teams trade draft assets to move up all the time.. They can get whoever they want at QB, just gotta be willing to pay.
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Time for the Oline to show up again. Time for the backup WR's to actually make some plays and help the QB. I see backups helping other teams all over the league. These guys need to step up!
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For anyone to come on this board and suggest McD is stupid for going back to Tyrod or "has no balls" is ridiculous.....that is so disingenuous. If McD came back and started Peterman at Arrowhead this week he should be fired on the spot. No NFL coach, GM or owner would ever sign off on putting back in a rookie with zero body of work after that disaster. It would be career suicide.
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Leslie Frazier....you’re on the clock
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Not to overreact or anything...but McD should come out tomorrow and not only declare Tyrod will start at KC. But he should say Tyrod will be the starter for the remainder of the season. If McD turns this into a flip-floppy type QB situation then he loses the team and loses credibility as a head coach.
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5 minutes ago, Lofton80 said:
Any Quarterback who throws 5 interceptions in a half is going to get the same reaction. He made the throws he owns them. He will get another chance
though I would wait for a home game.
Exactly. And if his last name were Brissett or Hoyer or Gabbert it would be the same reaction. Unfortunately for Peterman, he has no other body of work to fall back on. So this is it. He picked the worst possible moment to try and be a gunslinger and throw passes when he shouldn't have. Sometimes you just gotta turtle or throw it deep out of bounds. And yeah, the KB injury and DiMarco thing were big contributors but Nate doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. He's a rookie and he threw 5 picks. That's all anyone cares about.
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On Sirius they buried Peterman. Said once they plucked him out at halftime, his season was over. Tyrod will finish it out, Bills will draft a QB and Peterman will never see the field again (unless an injury emergency occurs).
The fans in BLo continue to look for a silver lining in his performance. Nationally his career as a starter is over here, and maybe forever.
Thanks DiMarco!
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11 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Except that it isn't . The AFC is beyond mediocre, a 9 win team will likely make a WC this year. Heck, the Chargers think they are back in it with just 4 wins. I don't think the Bills are a talented enough team to do it, but the team and certainly the head coach can't look at it that way. Winning is the only thing and that's how it has to be. If Peterman starts , then McD has committed a firable offense and should be dismissed.
Yes he is, and he should be fired if he's trying to do anything but win a football game this week. He just wasn't going to announce anything and certainly not a switch back to Taylor on the Monday after that disaster. I'll wait until tomorrow to skewer him if his decision is the unthinkable.
Well, in an effort to maintain the integrity of the NFL, the Chiefs probably deserve the Peterman treatment just like was afforded the LA Chargers. I mean that definitely got LA right back in the AFC West race.. Not only with the W but their confidence is now sky high. I'm sure KC was thrilled with that decision by our McD.
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23 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
He had too much egg on his face to switch gears immediately with no time for film evaluation. It would also be pretty embarrassing for Peterman if McD came right out and announced a switch. May as well say " well that guy sure sucked, huh?". Wasn't going to happen. He'll wait until Wednesday and let the media swarm die down. The change obviously didn't work, but I can't imagine Peterman being the starter. It would be a complete forfeiture of the season in this weak AFC. If it's Peterman , McD deserves to be skewered by media and fans alike. The organization would be the biggest joke in the league, giving up on a season with 6 weeks to go.
He's already being skewered, for everything. Anything he has said since he was hired is being dragged out of the closet. If he starts Peterman at Arrowhead, McD might as well be fired on the spot.
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The Chargers had zero turnovers and 1 measly penalty called against them. They played almost a perfect NFL game. Then we add in a QB that can't take care of the ball and it's a 30 point loss. LA was not going to lose that game no matter who was playing QB. But it would have been less embarrassing i suppose with TT.
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I can appreciate his devotion and now totally fed up. Been there. I'm not leaving this party, Bills fan for life..but I am probably dumping my season tickets after this season. I only come up for 1-2 games per year max. I'm finding it harder to resell the tickets i don't use, especially December games.. I can cherry-pick the game i want to attend and buy great seats on the secondary market for pretty cheap.
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I understand that McD won't be pressured into making a decision against his belief.. BUT, if he had any clue as to the "temperature in the room" he'd go with Tyrod this week. Taylor has played at Arrowhead, he knows the deal, this should be a close game if the D can show up and play a normal game. If he rolls out Peterman then his team will be giving him eye-rolls behind his back and his reputation as a head coach will be seriously questioned even more than it has been.
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6 minutes ago, ddaryl said:
They pissed it away when they couldn't rebound at home against the Saints with extra days to prepare. That was pretty clear
Well i definitely agree with that as well.
1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:JaCrispy, it doesn't draw much discussion but there is definitely cause for concern about what a strict diet of butt-whuppings does to the culture of a team.
If Taylor gives us a chance to win, or at least not be publically humiliated on both sides of the ball, now that we've "tanked the tank" there is an argument to be made for playing him.
If Peterman can be better long term, there is also an argument to be made for properly developing him - which does not mean throwing him in like that.
I'd call McD a fool if he rolls out Peterman at KC. Tyrod definitely gives the team a better chance to win this week. Hotrod has played at Arrowhead, he knows what it's all about. Nate would go in there and his mindset would be not to throw picks...and he'd be captain checkdown just as much as Tyrod was vs. NO.
McD needs to give the young guy a chance to catch his breath and learn. Assuming we lose to KC and NE, then start Nate vs. Indy at home. It's easier to have him gain some confidence at home where the team typically performs better... (unless it's the Saints!)
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Funny, i wrote on twitter yesterday (to harrington) that my prediction was Pegula would have the Sabres for sale within a year. He kind of shot that down and said he will not sell. But my point regarding the Sabres is that he has tried everything with that club and it just turns to crap. Terry is a good guy, he's done an amazing job building up Canalside. I personally don't think he needs the aggravation of the Sabres. They are hemorrhaging fans, the games don't sell out anymore and they are terribly dull. I do think he will remain the owner of the Bills and concentrate on them. But jeez, the Sabres have to be giving him serious high blood pressure and ulcers. Who needs that?
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Eh i don't think he's a hypocrite. His reputation has definitely taken a hit though. Let's face it, last week 98% of the national media called the move to Peterman -dumb, stupid, moronic and reckless (to name a few). We local fans were like..NO, we watch the team every week and it's a good calculated risk. Well, the national media was 100% right! It was a dumb move in hindsight. The team was in a playoff spot and they pissed it away. Probably would've lost with Tyrod anyway, but that narrative is pointless now.
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Why does anyone draft a QB? teams hope they hit on one and if they are decent can be an inexpensive backup. As for Peterman, his draft grade in some circles was very close to Kizer and Mahomes so getting him in the 5th was a steal. Too bad McD's out-of-the-box decision backfired and could screw up Nate's future career. I'm not doing the hindsight thing...I said last week they should NOT start Peterman on the road, but wait until the Indy home game. It's likely they would lose LA, KC and NE and be out of it anyway.
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The guy in Atlanta (Quinn) has purposely followed the Sean Payton model of having two speedy RBs who can line up anywhere..and obviously a QB who can make some throws. What is the model here? Seems like the Bills are playing traditional football read and react with no plan whatsoever. I’d like to know what McDs vision is
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Lol. Kornheiser and Wilbon on PTI just destroyed McDermott. Oh man, they ripped him about as badly as I’ve seen them rip anyone. The nice portion they said he should have been fired last night.
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6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I thought it was pretty clear from his presser, that would be his preference.
Puzzling.
McD seemed like he was really searching for some positives from Nate's performance. He kept referring to that first drive, and the tight window pass to Kelvin. He said Nate showed some good things. I really don't see how he can come back to him though. It was a historically bad performance in terms of NFL history., and accomplished in only a half. You can't send him out there in KC or vs. NE. i can see getting him in vs. Indy assuming we lose the next two.
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Sooooo, any chance that Tyrod stewing for a few days and riding the bench for the 1st half can make him into a better QB? He seemed to come in and sling it a bit. but there was no real pressure on him down 30 points. So I'm not sure what to think of it? I do believe Tyrod gets the start vs. KC.
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He refuses to talk about negativity. Says he saw some good things "baked" into that performance yesterday. Didn't reflect on the scoreboard. Says Peterman will learn and mistakes were shared among several on offense.
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I didn't break down this guy's coverage ability, but #24 was the only Bills defensive player I saw hitting anyone with authority. He's the only guy I saw on D playing with pride and being physical all the way through. So props to Leonard Johnson. The other defenders especially in the 2nd half were letting dudes abuse them and some were making "business decisions" and shied away from contact.
Tyrod to start vs Chiefs
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Is it OK for me to root for the Bills to win this week? Seriously, some "fans" here are just poisoned into thinking losing is the best option to cure all ills.
Anyway, can McD and his staff actually coach the team up this week please. I'm losing faith in all of them. Never have I seen what was a decent team get blown away 3 games in a row like this. It's embarrassing. This coach had better show something this week and get these players to perform.