BEAST MODE BABY!

Anyone here hear of the Stockdale Paradox? All you optomists are going to be screaming come mid-November. All those who say the Bills will be good, it's just I have no idea when will be much better off.

I'm not a sucker this year. I am assuming we're going to suck like ass, so I'll be pleasantly surprised and possibly euphoric when we go 2-14. It will be like we have Joe Ferguson back as QB.

I don't know what you mean by Elcrusho, but of course the house was bigger in NY. My only point was to compare what you pay as it relates to property values and in NY it's higher. Personally, I am never going back. I would rather sit in traffic for an hour and live in LA than live in Rochester and get home in 20 minutes. Different strokes for different folks.

My condo out here cost me in the low $300,000 range. Property taxes cost me about $4000 a year. THat same price range in Webster, NY would be around $10,000 a year in prop taxes. What upstate needs is a new industry, becasue right now, they have not much growth.

I think you're making the mistake of falling in love with names instead of looking at performance. LM was not the same player he was a few years ago and slowed noticeably. And all the guys we've cut, including Pat Williams, wouldn't have fit a cover 2. MW was a bust. Happens to all teams. Look at the Saints, who just traded the 6th overall selection to the Pats.

Hell, he should of had 5 if what's his face didn't trip him up right before the goalline last year.

Was Marcus Vick drafted?

I read he was the anchor for the LSU defensive line. Hey, wasn't Anderson the "anchor" for the Ohio State line? Instead of a 3rd round Tim Anderson we have a 5th round Tim Anderson. Woo-hoo!!!! Go Marv!!!!!

Is this a Saturday?

Apparently, there are speed concerns regarding Ko Simpson.

Even if Polian liked out first two picks, that doesn't mean they weren't a stretch. Besides, what does Polian have to lose by putting in a good word for Marv? Who's to say Marv didn't call Polian to put in a good ord or three.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You're the only one who isn't an idiot. For the record, trying muddy the waters by implying I think John Clayton and Mel Kiper are the second coming of Bill Polian, you got another thing coming. We obviously have a GM that is risk averse and doesn't know the first thing about negotiating. Marv was quoted as saying he was afraid Donte would be gone by pick 13. Rule number one of negotiating: If you aren't in a position to walk away, you've lost, bottom line. Let's get us a GM that's not afraid, and we'll do better. BTW, I like the Youboty pick. It's the first 2 rounds (where all the pressure is) that I have a problem with.

Is this Marv? I swear, quoting a Pastabelly article to defend one's position is kind of like taking the low ground in a battle, don't you think?

And that's why we didn't get good value...because Marv was afraid. How many people in our front office know how to negotiate? Apparently, not many. Freakin' terrible.

And here we have ass 26.

Whatever. Like someone posted earlier on the board, first we have the "You can't judge anything on draft day." Then we hear it's only training camp, then it's the preseason, we're vanilla. On and on, ad nauseum. THe thing is the Bills seemed to have blinked. Whitner would have ben there (more than likely) and McCargo we probably could have gotten in the second without moving. What this demonstrates is that the Bills lack people who know how to be un-emotional when they negotiate. This is exactly what happened today, period.

Fu*k you Marv.

!@#$ you Marv.

I'd prefer another DT at 134 instead of a RB.

LOL Or this variation: "I'll park in the Head Coach spot if I goddamn well please. You can go tell Jauron to kiss my wrinkled old ass....!@#$ing Yalies."

"So, you're telling me your penis is really 9 inches long? I don't believe you. Show me."

And here I was thinking they were talking about Erik Flowers.

I thought it was Tuesday?

Dan Snyder will do whatever the market tolerates.

You're right, I'm an idiot. But Huff does have the capability to play CB too.