RuntheDamnBall

It would totally suck to have either of these players.

Even better! Small sample size FTW.

While we're using single NFL seasons to evaluate people, JP Losman is an up-and-comer, as long as you're only looking at his best year. Alex Smith will never amount to anything based on most of his career, but appeared to turn it around last year with Harbaugh at the helm. Vick could have been a washout and clearly coasted on talent, until his rude awakening. Rich Gannon was a career journeyman, with a late rise. Change happens in the NFL. I am not saying it WILL happen with Vince Young, because only he and the team that gives him an opportunity can make it happen. I'd prefer Young's talent over Thigpen's consistent mediocrity, if and only if Chan thinks he can work with him.

There's a tendency around here to take someone's mild suggestion and inflate it. Nothing personal. "You the F&^*" am I? Nobody important, but I've been around here for awhile. I can pull out Young's stats vs. Thigpen's if you want. I think they are better in terms of what you want in a backup. It's a waste of time but I'll do it if it will make me a better member of this forum in your book. Would that make you feel better? As for the other comments, if a guy is content to be a backup, I don't really want him here. But he should be focusing that desire and energy in the right way. If VY carries himself as in the past, with a sense of entitlement, say "no thanks." If he carries himself with a drive to get better and create opportunities for himself, then I don't see the harm in a low-cost flyer on the guy to upgrade Thigpen - and maybe something more down the road,

If a backup QB who clearly needs to step back and take stock of his situation is going to be enough to tear apart a team that's clearly behind Ryan Fitzpatrick, this team is not as close as we thought, and it's a mentally weak team. I just don't believe that's the case. He didn't have a good showing in Philly, but he was also playing for a coach who appears to be losing his team at times.

No one says he's the heir apparent. Meanwhile, he's never gotten in huge trouble - although you might say he has been troubled. I can imagine that the Bud Adams / Jeff Fisher disagreement on Young did not make for the most stable situation for a young, talented and growing player. If he was ever going to mature, the Tennessee situation wasn't going to make that easy. The list of NFL players who have made good on second chances is long. Not as long as the list of busts, but if Chan and Buddy view him as salvageable for the backup position and maybe something more down the road - MAYBE, you hear me? - I am fine with it. He is an upgrade on Thigpen and I can't see how that's very disputable.

How about the guy who shot himself in the leg in a club? How exactly did Young royally crap the bed as a pro? That's a statement worthy of JP Losman or 2009 vintage Trent Edwards. Young has outplayed both by a wide margin. He's definitely not lived up to his draft status, but he has a much better record than most NFL draftees at QB. What he has done is coasted by on his talent... much like Vick had till the lights came on for him. I wouldn't rule out the right matchup making things happen for Young. Now, I don't want him as the starter right now, but he still has a ceiling to hit, IMO.

Because we have a coach who has made Mike Tomczak and Kordell Stewart into playoff QBs, and Vince Young has more talent than those two put together? The book isn't finished on Young, and if this staff feels like VY is prepared to work, where is the harm in signing him to be our backup? For as much as he apparently sucks, he has whupped the hell out of the Bills a few times in his career. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find that Gailey's staff is a much better fit than Jeff Fisher's for a guy like VY.

They always come crying back to Dorenbos, the Magic Man.

I respect your judgment, but I actually think that our hopes are more contingent on the emergence of T.J. Graham than of Easley. Again, I also think Hagan is in the mix. If the Bills are going to become harder to defend, they need to have a different threat in the mix. If Easley is only marginally better than Jones - factoring in drops and health - and Graham is facing the usual rookie learning curve, they are going to have to lean heavy on Chandler and Nelson again to open things up for Stevie. It's one reason we have high hopes for commitment to a running game.

I definitely saw the lack of a good #2 as an issue even during the strong start (and we easily forget just how close many of those early wins were). It wasn't a sustainable situation; lo and behold, when injuries struck, they were shot. I'll be much more comfortable with Easley as a #5 to start the season, who may come in and contribute as the games roll on and an inevitable injury occurs. Forget greatness. Asking Easley to be a starter right now is basically equivalent to what we were doing with Merriman last year - minus the past record of All Pro play. It'd be nice if it happens, but relying on that scenario is just plain stupid. I actually think Derek Hagan is a forgotten man here and might be more ready to step in with quality #2 play, given the opportunity. I hope for the best for Easley - it'd mean great things for the Bills. I just think a lot of people are unjustifiably pinning their hopes on the guy.

So, two years of precious little practice, and zero regular season experience running routes or absorbing contact doesn't concern you at all? You guys are certifiable if you're expecting greatness from Easley. I wish him all the best but I'll be pissed if the bills don't have a Plan A.

Besides: why rely on a 2 year old model when you've got a brand new one (Carder)?

I tell you what: if God thinks this one little draft is going to make up for a treasure trove of garbage, he has a worse sense of humor than we do.

Adding T.O. is just lunacy. The guy is not getting back into the NFL, folks. Not without a flux capacitor.

Does this mean if Fitzpatrick fails, we get to kill him?

yep.

JP Losman still has better physical tools than any QB currently on the roster, FWIW.

No kidding. I wouldn't want to cut the guy ranked #40 by a cross-section of the nation's leading basement-couch tenants. Bleacher Report's competitive salaries are known to retain plenty of people who would otherwise be collecting paychecks as NFL scouts.

Detroit didn't pass him up. They just didn't draft him. Everybody knows what his shortcomings are (har har), but he's got a lot of intriguing qualties and I don't doubt that he's going to work hard to get better. He just made another smart move and signed with a playoff team that plays in a dome, with an oft-injured starter. I'll be rooting for Moore. Thank you. I'm not going to write off Corp, but I think there are plenty of reasons to believe in Moore, and to have taken a late round flyer on him rather than wasting a draft pick and potentially a roster spot with a 2nd kicker from western Michigan. I'm sure the competition was heated for the kicker, but c'mon.

Non stop motor. It goes to Eleven.

Well, note how much committee "service" Fisher performs...

Trent Dilfer needs a QB. !@#$ Trent Dilfer. Maybe if he could play QB he could have actually won a Super Bowl.

I'm interested in Wilson for these reasons. 4th rd would seem to be a really good chance to take.