RuntheDamnBall

People who don't like Murray have to explain their position to me. I see very little not to like about the kid.

As is often the case, well-stated.

1) building the best bills OL in years 2) re-signing many of the team's best homegrown players 3) being unafraid to address the DL in free agency this past offseason. I think the results sucked in part because nix didn't adequately address the LBs, but the ingredients for a good pass rush are there. 4) smart low risk high reward pickups like chandler, nelson, kyle moore and a host of other good UDFAs. 5) identifying which Jauron regime players needed to stay and which needed to go. 6) bringing in and working with Whaley, stabilizing the player personnel aspect of the team while laying the groundwork for transition. 7) realizing modrak wasnt working out and letting him go. I stress, at none of these has Nix done a perfect job. And the failures are important to note, too. But I think continuity esp with a HC hire looming is a good thing. We need a good scout more than ever now that it's been all but confirmed we are drafting a QB. it would be extremely difficult to throw someone new into the mix at this point and ask them to do all the important draft scouting while settling in to a new org.

Bill Belicheck, Dick Vermeil, Bill Parcells, Tony Dungy, Tom Coughlin, and Jon Gruden all say hi. Mike Holmgren and John Fox haven't done too badly for themselves, either.

I respect bold beliefs but some of the ones BB holds WRT QBs are baffling.

Right. And it's not as though the twice champion minor market Red Sox hired Bill James, the guy who practically invented this stuff. Oh. Wait.

He went 10-6 this past season. I know what I know. Done feeding the troll.

Plays like a boss. I would gladly take him in Buffalo.

He would be the first coach hired but these kinds of reports surface all the time. He would be heading to a team that has the QB he chose to trade away. Is that necessarily a slam-dunk?

Right. "One appearance" meaning a first round bye, divisional win and an appearance In the NFC Championship game. Jauron won zero playoff games. Lovie has a 3-3 record in playoff games. Keep trollin', trollin' trollin'.

If we lost Whaley, to a team like Cleveland, for example, I'm sure some of the critics would find a new target.

You have a funny definition of slightly. It's almost as laughable as your claim of 3 winning seasons for Lovie. Did he beat you up in gym class or something?

All well and good but TG goes down a few notches on the reliability meter after v yesterday.

I like this kid.

Also was a qb coach in Oak.

Are you dyslexic or a troll? If it's the former, I'm sorry to interpret your tone deaf post the wrong way. Lovie has five winning seasons, three losing seasons, and one at .500. Two of the worst, losing seasons are as good as anything the Bills have had since 2004, and the first was Lovie's very first - you know, the one you cite in your ridiculous cherry-picked dossier of 2003-2004 declines.

ROSE COLORED GLASSES... SMELL THE GLOVE... REALITY CHECK.

Most fans that were effing nuts and had zero knowledge of financial matters. You'd have to be batsh-- crazy to believe that Kelly and Thurman Thomas had a billion dollars lined up yesterday. Kelly may over time be able to mobilize an ownership group but that will be after some very public declarations that NFL owners would have to be privy to and sign off on. I don't think this is at all about making a profit. It's about owning the failures of the past and making things right on the football field, which WILL BE the most profitable approach the team can adopt over the long haul. I don't walk into this one with zero reservations, but knowing that we will not be paying bottom of the barrel salaries for a head coach is promising. Knowing that the President wants world-class football people and that cost is not an issue is promising. Knowing that he wants to be be progressive and use stats and analytics is promising. Good organizations don't tear down the things that are working - they identify what isn't, and adjust accordingly. I think they've always had a good plan with Whaley in place, but they are going to have to prove that there is more to that plan. If a good HC and QB do not follow these moves, you'll prove to be right and you can wear your "I was right!" shirt to work the next day. If you can't have some renewed faith on the first days of the offseason, you may as well not watch and just become a casual fan. You've got a right to say whatever you like, and I do agree that Nix has made some moves that give me pause, but let's see how the admitted desires to draft a QB and bring in what they feel is a top-shelf coach result in.

Different. Neither had just led his team to a 10-6 record and been in demand by other teams. 4 teams have already called Lovie. He called us.

They have a coach who has playoff and Super bowl appearances calling them on day one. Tells me the roster and state of the franchise is not as far gone as the negative nancies think.

With the team's only winning season in the past decade, sabotaged by poor qb play. Also with the coach departing because the meddlesome owner was bugging Donahoe daily and Mularkey as well. It was clearly different because Ralph was calling the shots, Brandon was only a trusted advisor with limited autonomy. And he was shackled to Dick Jauron, a low cost, low energy hire.

Maybe his winning record, including one this season, his super bowl appearance with rex frigging Grossman, and his success leading perennially awesome defenses with personnel similar to ours have something to do with it. But if some guy on a message board calls him a loser, a loser he must be.

That's a problem with bringing him back under a new regime, not an asset.

That's a fair assessment, and Nix needs to hit on this QB choice. I think they've both underestimated the value of QBs in the draft and not been in sync with the coaching staff in some of their FA acquisitions at the position. What I do hope is that the new HC is someone who inspires confidence and a large part of that will have to do with the QBs he chooses to work with. What people need to realize is that this is the end of RW decisions made based on gut or loyalty - firing Wade, Marv's GM stint, drafting Rodney Wright, Johnson over Flutie, etc. This is just to name a few of the missteps attributed to RW.

Your words were that it was perfect as is, and if that were the case they would not be fortifying the operation in the ways you mentioned. I don't claim to know the specifics but for all we know Ralph placed limited priority on scouting and didn't give them everything they needed. This tells me the team can potentially enter a new era if Brandon is truly able to put RW's money where his mouth is.