RuntheDamnBall

And if only he weren't better at football than most of the people within the Bills organization who DO bust their ass, I might give a damn. Deeds not words.

Good for Wakefield making some money off this, but clearly this is a lot of people piggybacking on the success of R.A. Dickey. And what Dickey's doing is really not as easy as anyone out there is making it to be, despite the lack of stress the pitch places on the arm. I predict Flutie will look like a clown trying to do this with his little man hands.

He did also use the word "they" instead of "we" if this quote is accurate, so maybe Donte is just forecasting that they'll win it all once they upgrade at strong safety

If I were paying him for a public speaking engagement I might give a sh--. Fitz left far more plays on the field involving SJ than did Stevie himself. Stevie gets open and that's all that matters.

What's true is that there was a context to his statement that you choose to ignore.

Stop it with the facts. And that should be the end of it.

Yup yup! Dave taught a couple of us here in college... Awesome guy and incredible engineer. The Lips were one of his college projects...

They were this generations' version of the Billy Joe Hobert comments until you weigh in the fact that they came from a guy who usually produces. Look, it was all a lead-in, in really dumb fashion, to his statement that he is going to work harder this off-season. Is it great to hear that he wasn't working as hard as he thinks he can, now? Probably not. But show me any guy in his 20s who doesn't realize this about himself as he gets older. Honestly, we really do forget that pro athletes are in the same generation people who are just-out-of-college interns scraping to get by right now, or otherwise figuring out what to do with their lives. Not excusing what he said because it was dumb, but I think you look at the track record. By and large the track record is successful with a few bad moments and some room for improvement. It seems to bear out what he's said here and I think Stevie continuing to grow up is a great thing for the Buffalo Bills. He is still by a wide margin the best they have.

Dude is hogging all the good sh--.

Sure, but biggest need? If we could draft a TE and he would magically play like Gronkowski from the get-go, I'd say sure, because that would add a dimension in the passing game we do not have. But I think that Gronk's rise has as much to do with his QB as it does with him (and we do not have a a QB).

Does it much matter? Consider this trade as a precedent. Now, Whitehurst was a third rounder himself so I'll give you that, but if Detroit thinks Moore could be replaced by a 6th rounder, they probably won't be keeping him around for long, because why invest in a guy at all and then move him for only a 6th? Another team is only going to trade for him if it thinks he has starting potential; backups can be had on the cheap. Like it or not, Detroit would be looking at this from the position of an owner of an asset with value. It's kind of like owning a second car that you like and gets the job done, maybe isn't remarkable, but you're not going to sell it for ten dollars to someone who really needs a car just because you have an extra one.

I don't disagree, but fat chance Detroit sees it that way.

Basically on point right here.

My point is that the stats were a mirage and that the so-called strength of Jauron's team was beatable once it was exposed by quality opponents. Personally, I would shoot right back and argue that Bobby April's top-5 Special Teams were the strength of the team. But for the sake of argument, let's say fine, the defenses were the strength of the team. That's setting the bar pretty low. It matters little that it was the strength of team with a 7-9 ceiling. Gailey's teams at least could score points and may have done better had some things broken the right way, but it matters little. Both were failures. All the same, I would take the strengths of this current defensive personnel over the weak DL and decent defensive backfield that Jauron assembled. Please add many LBs!

10% of zero is still zero.

That's his repertoire. 1) HARD HIT!!!!!!1 2) Earn team tackles by being last on the pile 3) Get smoked by TE 4) Get caught in no man's land on a double-move 5) Miscommunication with teammate in defensive backfield (usually teammate's fault, but we're classy so we don't say that to everybody) 6) BUT DID YOU SEE THAT HARD HIT!!!!!?!!!1

You won't find me defending Dave Wannstedt or George Edwards for that matter. Both of those guys were in over their heads in the NFL of 2010-2012, for very different reasons. Jauron tried something but he was easily outwitted by good coaches.

Yeah, I just don't see a scenario where they are that eager to acquire a 6-7 pick. I guess by the book it's spinning straw into, uh, copper, but he still would seem to be more valuable to the Lions.

I get what you are saying, but I will take the defensive line we have here right now as a better building block than the DBs we had under Jauron. The answer is still better players over scheme. Jauron had better players for most of the rest of his defense but had a fundamentally flawed understanding of how to use his DL. Also, it would not have mattered if they were #1 on defense because the offense consistently found new depths of ineptitude.

I think he is more valuable to the Lions than a fourth rounder, and I am not sure it's a real bright idea for this team to give up anything more. They need the kind of talent that R1-3 picks get you. I'd LOVE to see the guy get a chance because I loved his game and his work ethic in college, but I just don't see it. The only scenario where I see it happening is if the Bills acquire a late 3rd somehow and the Lions are game. Realistically, moving your backup QB when your starter is injury-prone makes little sense. I guess Moore is #3 there but who knows for how long, since Shaun Hill is getting up there.

I am a Kellen Moore fan, but as with Ryan Mallett, Kirk Cousins or any of these dudes, the time to get them would have been in the draft. That is, we could have had them THEN instead of any number of guys whom we cut and are bagging groceries, or are sucking ass on the field for us. It makes precious little sense to pay a premium, with extra draft picks going to a competitor, on the kind of guy you can probably find in this upcoming draft. It doesn't make sense unless you are dead certain he is the one (and then, how could your mind have changed so much when you just recently refused to use a late pick on the guy in the draft?). I am not sure I feel that way about Moore, Cousins or Mallett.

Great idea. I'll bet Donald Jones and Ruvell Martin at least work out in the offseason like real NFL receivers.

Right. I mean if that's our list and Flacco and Kaepernick are certain to be in the top 12-15 at worst, all of it looks like prime rib compared to our gruel. Oh, do I call a heaping load of BS on this one. Our run defense has always been pure garbage, and the Jauron bend-don't-break model got the Bills to 7-9 with regularity. Let's not pretend that this is some monumental improvement over 6-10, when at least Gailey figured out once how to beat the Patriots. The Jauron-Levy defense sucked, and it was just good enough to make you believe that it was capable of doing something until crunch time. It had no killer instinct and could not find pressure or a stop on the run when it needed these most. Jauron's defenses did feature better play from the defensive backs, but I'll attribute that to Jabari Greer (whom that same leadership let go), a healthier Terrence McGee in his prime, and an misguided over-investment on that phase of the game. They also had better LB talent in Poz, Crowell, Haggan and Mitchell, and Fletcher that first year. Not great by any means but a league-average group at least. Too bad they were always making tackles at the second level because these sh-- for brains thought that they could get by with weak and small D linemen (and let good ones go to succeed elsewhere). Better defense, my azz.

I dunno. I would think if you take enough pride in your job that you would feel some ownership of the title for having helped the starter succeed. I am sure, for example, that Frank Reich would have taken a starting job sooner were he in a position to get one, but I am sure he wanted his team to win. I know it's different because FR wasn't the starter except for in case of injury, but these jobs come and go... titles don't.

Of course he is pissed. But he has also been a model teammate on the field and in practice from all I have read.