dave mcbride

That's my point, actually. Sociological sorting into different sports is the primary driver of most of this. I was reacting to a blanket statement about blacks being better athletes than whites. Relatedly, expect the percentage of white players in the NFL to decline over time as more more middle class white families refuse to let their kids play football.

LOL. Kyle and Jonathan are feeling lonely right now.

yup.

That's a plausible scenario.

He had 81 catches for nearly 1200 yards and 17 TDs in a big-boy conference. Against a team with a VERY good secondary - USC in November - he had 8 catches for 154 yards (19.3 ypc) and a TD.

I brought up swimming because it is without question a truly "athletic" sport. Indeed, it is one of those truly basic elemental sports that it is ALL about athletic talent and which doesn't really feature encumbrances/props like skates, bicycles, etc. It's akin to track - e.g., the fastest runner in the world, the strongest man in the world, the fastest swimmer in the world, the highest jumper in the world, etc. I was responding to a post that made a blanket statement about blacks being better athletes than whites.

I think we all said the same about Desean Jackson in 2008. Everyone wanted a big receiver, and people on this board laughed at the Eagles for taking the fast little guy. Everyone was militating for big guys like Devin Thomas, Limas Sweed, Malcolm Kelly, and James Hardy because ... Roscoe. Eight receivers went in that second round, and the best of all of them was the 5'10" guy who was blazingly fast. It's not as if Ross hasn't produced either - he had 81 catches and 17 TDs for one of the best teams in the country this past season. My point is, judge the player on who the player is, not on comparisons to other players for which there is really no basis. Ross ain't Glass Goodwin.

I think it's a fair bet to say that at least one of them will turn out to be good. This isn't the best qb draft ever, but it's far from horrible.

I expect a bit of a comedown this year for Prescott (where else can he go?), actually. But even if he slides a little this season, he has established himself as a damn good player. He really struggled against the Giants, but then again the Giants defense was ferocious last season.

Pretty good write-up on Davis v. Williams from a Ravens fan: http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/3/29/15097148/comparing-mike-williams-and-corey-davis-who-is-the-better-prospect-baltimore-ravens-nfl-draft-2017 .

I think this is a pretty fair take. Kind of a bizarre comparable, however. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/corey-davis?id=2557848

I think his floor is more like Demariyus Thomas, who I think is overrated and drops too many passes (he's still pretty good--don't get me wrong). His ceiling is Julio Jones.

I respect your opinion, but to my eyes he looks so much better than Jordan Matthews. No comparison, really, at least to me. And he freaking produced. W. Michigan was genuinely good last year, beating a couple of big ten teams, blowing out the competition in their own league that they were obligated to play, and giving a very strong Wisconsin team a tough game in the Cotton Bowl. I think Denver likes Siemian more than some here suspect. I could be wrong. I think he looks alright and has a future. Jay Fiedler comes to mind, and that's not a criticism. In his first four years with Miami, the Dolphins went 35-17 when Fiedler started.

Despite his flaws, Tyrod Taylor is a much better player than Foles at this point. I mean, is this even debatable?

Williams nearly broke his neck a couple of season ago! Durability doesn't simply mean "healthy at draft time." All of these guys get injured at some point. Davis's injury, which is genuinely minor, just happened at a different time than Williams's more serious one.

Really? Davis looks amazing to me. I think he'll be a star if he stays healthy. He sometimes looks like Randy Moss out there.

Corey Davis is my preferred pick.

Agree completely. The reasons why certain races excel in certain sports has a lot more to do with sociological sorting than anything else. Interestingly, in a piece that deals with genetics, the piece doesn't mention that McCaffrey's grandfather was the fastest sprinter in the world in the latter half of the 1950s. The pats are all about exploiting weaknesses in a system that others haven't caught on to (moneyball, basically). If other teams wrongly believe in a stereotype when selecting players for certain positions, it stands to reason that other talented players who don't fit the stereotype get overlooked, and that is to the Pats benefit. There aren't many receivers in the league who have Edelman's short-area quickness, after all. It works both ways, of course -- just look at the schools that began to start black players in college basketball (and football) in the 1940s-50s and destroyed longtime powerhouses like Kentucky, which remained a white team.

Then don't make blanket statements like the one you issued above. You do agree that swimming is an actual sport that involves athletic talent and that it's quite popular globally, no?

Swimming was a major world athletic sport last i checked. Michael phelps is a better athlete than anyone playing in the nfl. The post i responded to said that blacks were better athletes than whites based, seemingly, on watching football and maybe basketball/sprinting and not much else. The world of athletics is a lot bigger than the world of the nfl corneback.

Tell that to all of the white swimmers and the massive number of white guys throwing 95+ mph fastballs.

Frodo Fumagali!

According to PFF, they were 10th and Buffalo 11th. Close in any event, and the Bills were upper half. https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-this-season/

No tasteless Erin Moran jokes yet. I'm surprised.

Casserly was fired regardless of what the piece says. Feel free to keep litigating this, but heading to television wasn't Casserley's preferred choice.