dave mcbride

1) It establishes a motive. 2) If she turned them off, it's not good for her. But we have no idea whether she did. We don't know enough at the moment. Look: trouble has a habit of following the guy, and he appears to be a blockhead. We'll see what happens, but it's way too soon to draft him for your fantasy team.

So anyway, the big takeaway seems to be that that we're watching an idiots edition the game Clue being played in which the players are analogues of Jeff Gillooly, Shawn Eckhardt, LaVona Golden, and Tonja Harding. I'm not sure there's a Nancy Kerrigan analogue (yet), however ...

I never said he wouldn't get off! I just think that it's ridiculous to conclude that he's out of the woods because of a couple of murky tweets involving lawyer statements.

It appears that McCoy was an intermediary for the jewelry loan, which is pretty suggestive. I'm not saying that'll get him convicted or anything like that, but he's hardly out of the woods. Who turned off the cameras? We haven't found that out yet either. If she didn't, it's also suggestive.

I wouldn't say that at all. There's a fair bit of conflicting info out there, now, but some definitely points to McCoy. None of us know yet.

I feel like everyone here needs to watch "I, Tonja." We are in the process of living that movie (vicariously!) right now, I suspect.

Oh please. Your opinion of her character is irrelevant anyway. The only thing that matters is that the place she was living in was invaded, and she got the crap beaten out of her.

She probably should have done that, but no one deserves to be terrorized and pistol-whipped in the middle of the night because they didn't give it back. Look: no one here looks like an Einstein, yet that shouldn't matter. Too many people here are leaping to conclusions because they don't think the parties - particularly her - seem all that intelligent. (Also, news flash: Shady got an 11 on the Wonderlic.)

Just trying to get some clarity: what's the general consensus about the shiny items in question -- were they McCoy's, was it a lending by a jeweler that McCoy facilitated, or were they the property of a jeweler who lent them to her without any intercession by McCoy?

Is it time to take a trip in the way-back machine to the era when Nix/Whaley were picking and signing players and taking a hard look at the personality/character-related stuff that they flat out ignored when it came to roster building? I think it merits a thread. So many thugs, morons, and miscreants.

It's not that I want to accept it. I just think that the problem is a lot deeper than many of us know based on how often bad events are covered up that we don't find out about. I'll never forget watching an ESPN documentary about the issue years ago, and a number of women who had been terrorized by Lewis Billups (the Bengals' all-pro safety and general all-around thug) spoke out. It was pretty chilling, and one of their points was that they were not atypical of NFL wives/girlfriends. The list is long (e.g., Carruth, Darren Sharper, Incognito, ...) Christ, in the last couple of weeks alone, Kellen Winslow Jr., Brandon Browner, and Brandon Pettigrew have had ugly arrests. The frequency is unique to the NFL, and I have always thought it was a function of the type of personality necessary for succeeding in the sport (particularly at certain positions).

I don't disagree with you, but at the same time I think you're overlooking one thing: most NFL fans have to make their peace at some point with the fact that the league is full of violent psychos because having a hair-trigger violent temper is actually a huge asset in the NFL. It has been like this forever, and the percentage of NFL players with these sorts of off-field violence problems dwarfs that of any other league (only boxing is similar, and for the obvious reasons). It's part of the deal of being an NFL fan. I don't like it, but the population of players in the NFL is what it is for a reason.

McCoy got an 11 on the Wonderlic. That's not dispositive of anything, of course, but a rocket scientist he ain't.

OK; good to know. I went back a few pages, but didn't see it. I have a feeling this isn't going to end well.

Don't forget the one page of arguing about reference publishing.

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Apologies if it has. https://deadspin.com/attorney-man-who-attacked-delicia-cordon-demanded-jewe-1827507261?utm_medium=socialflow&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&__twitter_impression=true Not a good omen for Shady.

You really should stop digging. I'll stop after saying one more thing: Webster's New World College Dictionary is the OFFICIAL DICTIONARY of the AP, NYT, and WSJ -- the three main news organizations in the country. They employ a lot of editors too, or so I hear. (Also, please try to refrain from putting words in my mouth.)

As someone who has worked for Oxford University Press for a dozen years, I can assure you that you are wrong. Yes, the OED is rightly the standard (and you did not actually cite the OED, btw; you'd need a quite expensive subscription to be able to do that), but Webster's New World College Dictionaries are fine dictionaries that do all of the things you say they don't. I am currently looking at the second edition of the Webster New World College Dictionary, and it provides etymological context etc. As I'm sure you know, Merriam-Webster is the corporate owner of the Webster name when it comes to dictionaries. As for Oxford, we publish all types of dictionaries, including American ones and ones that are meant for 4th graders. The Webster New World College Dictionary is the official dictionary of the NYT, WSJ, and AP. (God, I feel like Marshall McLuhan in "Annie Hall"!)

Is there a link for that?

Wasn't it McCoy's system given that he owned the house? Couldn't he in theory have it turned off? Would he be that stupid though?

The missing and highly salient individual in all of this discussion: On January 9, 2006, Marcus Vick was charged with three counts of brandishing a firearm, a Class One misdemeanor,[27][28] in Suffolk, Virginia. A police report alleged that he pointed a gun at a 17-year-old in the parking lot of a McDonald's in Suffolk after Vick's girlfriend had an argument with three people.[29] Vick claimed that the gun in question was a BlackBerry cell phone and that his accusers were trying to blackmail him.[30] On December 14, 2006, a 17-year-old girl from Montgomery County, Virginia, filed a civil lawsuit against Vick accusing him of molestation of a minor, fraud, and additional charges. In the lawsuit, seeking $6.3 million,[5] the girl claimed that when she was 15 (below the legal age of consent in Virginia), she was forced into a sexual situation with Vick, who was 20 years old, over a nearly two-year-long period. She also alleged that Vick offered to provide her alcohol and marijuana and forced her to have sex with other men.[6] On September 15, 2008, the parties agreed to a settlement in the lawsuit.[7] On June 13, 2008, a bicycle officer in Norfolk approached a couple arguing in a car. When asked for identification, Vick allegedly took off, driving the car at high speed. When another officer spotted the car and stopped it, Vick failed a sobriety test. He was charged with DUI, misdemeanor eluding police, driving on the wrong side of a street, reckless driving, driving on a suspended license, and was taken into custody.[31] Vick was living at the time in his brother Michael's riverfront mansion in Suffolk and Michael's condominium in the South Beach section of Miami Beach.[32] He was released on bond later Friday morning.[33][34][35] On October 20, Vick pleaded guilty to DUI. He was sentenced to 12 months in jail, which the judge suspended, a fine of $250, and his Virginia driving license was suspended for a year. He was also convicted of eluding a police officer and driving on the wrong side of the road, and fined $280 on those charges.[8] In August 2009, a judge ordered him to jail for probation violations including failure to complete an alcohol education program, testing positive for marijuana, missed appointments, and failure to pay court costs and fines. Vick was freed on a $25,000 bond and appealed the decision.[36] In January 2013, a judge sentenced Vick to five days in jail for failing to produce adequate documentation about his financial status by a court-ordered deadline. On December 30, Vick was arrested in Forsyth County for a second DUI, driving without a license, and driving with an expired car registration.[37] On April 5, 2016, Vick was charged with assaulting a police officer who was arresting him on a contempt charge in Virginia.[38] On July 11, Vick pleaded guilty in Newport News, Virginia to the resisting arrest charge and was ordered to serve one month in jail.[39] On October 8, 2016, Vick was again arrested on drug possession charges. An officer reportedly detected an odor of marijuana coming from an apartment as they approached it. This odor became stronger after the door was opened by a man inside, who was later identified as Vick.[40]

I've said this for years: the NFL has an inherent criminality problem, largely because you have be borderline psychotic to play the game (I'm not exaggerating). https://deadspin.com/brandon-browner-arrested-after-allegedly-breaking-into-1827444362. No other league has as many episodes like this as the NFL. I have no idea whether McCoy did anything, but NFL players' history in this area is pretty bad, relatively speaking.

It's not clear that she is dating McCoy, or how recent the dating was. She may be dating someone else, and that comment may be a backhanded swipe at McCoy. We don't know.

Um ... this doesn't say anything about McCoy.

Regardless, there's always been a lot of smoke of this sort around McCoy, and for literally years. Teams hate dealing with this stuff.