dave mcbride

I'm not 100 percent sure of that, but I do recall reading that (or hearing about it) somewhere.

Just to clarify, it's the other foot this time as I understand it.

A little thing called a foot injury.

It's less about the stats than watching when he plays for KC. When healthy (a MAJOR qualifier, to be sure), he's just so damn explosive, and his hands are as strong as those of any receiver in the league. He doesn't lose hand battles (unlike a certain receiver who just departed the Bills). He has essentially played in 8 games this season (he played in two other games for 1 play because of injuries). In those 8 games, he has 515 yards on 39 catches, which prorates to 78 catches for 1,030 yards. That is a LOT in an offense that spreads the ball around so much. But the feet are of course a problem with him.

It's a different foot, however, and it looks like Watkins' season is pretty much toast (although he may be a spot player in the last couple of games; who knows). The issue might actually be that he has chronic, congenital foot problems, which might explain why teams like LA and Buffalo didn't try to retain him. There's a ton of medical info we are not privy too.

Holmes had a bad penalty on special teams on Sunday, and it wasn't his first. I think this is a ST replacement.

He's been playing very well when healthy, but the feet may just be a chronic issue with him. I will not be surprised if he has the same injury as the one he had with the other foot. It's correctable, but he probably won't be 100 percent until around September of next year if he has the surgery.

The Browns were forced to spend nutsily last year. It's why they took on the Osweiler contract.

The Skinchise!

He was OK; he played about half of the season (the second half; he had a back injury in the first game) and the team put up points. He didn't throw many TDs, but this was a team with hardly any senior production. They're rebuilding.

As a UCLA fan (alum), this is gonna be fun. Not sure people were paying attention, but UCLA's offense really started clicking late in the season. They're a young squad and will improve. Nice matchup between Kelly and Kingsbury going forward.

He calls to mind this guy, who had a very good age-31 season in 2012, slipped a little in 2013 (age 32), and fell off a cliff after that. He got hurt in his age 30 season, but probably would have racked up big numbers if he had stayed healthy. Extremely similar players, stat and size wise. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnAn02.htm If Julio can give us similar production in his age 30-32 years (barring injury), than of course you grab him if he's available. You dump him after the age 32 season, just when you need to unlock the Brinks Truck for Allen's second contract.

Both are excellent runners who have made huge plays with their legs.

So you're saying that with regard to his flexing, it was more like this: https://giphy.com/gifs/lol-8oe1ekRC6kjPq

Should Zay Jones caught the picture-perfect throw to him a play earlier despite mild-but-real interference (the type of interference that good receivers swat away like an annoying fly when they routinely make catches in that sort of situation)?

The one clear head shot (one, not really multiple - the wrap-around the neck play was a reasonable no-call) was a terrible non-call by the ref, and it was game-determinative given when and where it happened (second down and 11 at the 30 of Miami on the Bills' third-last play). Milano's PI, however, was a great call. He arm barred him all the way down (which you cannot do!) and didn't look back for the ball. It was a very, very easy call and not really disputable at all. Pressure stats - why didn't you include them?

Again, he is not going to throw the qb under the bus. Again, it was an impressive play in many ways and Allen played a pretty good game. But if you're going to focus on drops, focus on the play before (and yes, I know the pitchforks aren't out for zay because he has been playing well). Jones was interfered with, and yes, PI should have been called, but good receivers hold onto perfect throws like that all the time even while being mildly interfered with (that is, it was PI but hardly a mugging). It was a perfect back-shoulder throw right in his breadbasket, and he basically failed to keep it in. Moderately tough play, yes, because of the interference (and hence I'll give him a pass on it), but a less tough catch than the wounded duck Clay had to field. But because the pitchforks are out for Clay, there is no mention of the previous--and equally important--play.

I was pulling for SD, who I like, but Pitt, who I don’t like, was completely jobbed in this game. The punt return non-call was a joke, as was the false start non-call.

I honestly don’t care a whit if my opinion isn’t popular on this message board, and popular support for your position among fans here who have their pitchforks out ain’t what I call “empirical evidence.” See my expanded reply above. I also wonder if people here actually watch other teams with any degree of closeness.

We disagree strongly about this. But you blamed Watkins on a bad pass by Taylor, so we’re on different sides with regard to this basic issue. You blame receivers on bad but borderline catchable passes (which go incomplete ALL of the time if you actually watch other NFL teams), and I think it’s the QB’s job to be at least moderately accurate. I liked Allen’s game today, but his final throw today was very off target. He was a top ten pick and we should expect him to deliver on that pass. He didn’t today, but I expect him to do so in the future. He had a lot of good throws today, but consistency on the accuracy front is a real issue at present.

Huh? Twist my words! I loved his game for the most part today except for a few plays and have complimented multiple times on the play up to the wounded-duck, helicopter-rotation throw. But yeah, blame the receiver. It was a circus catch situation. I am standing by that.

Whoops - in my frenzy i thought i was responding to dog re the NE game. My bad. I agree about that jets game. Regardless, coming back for the ball on a crap throw isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is.

I just watched three good players in high pressure situations fail to make catches that were less “circus” than clay’s not catch the ball. Sometimes, it’s the qb’s fault.

Can you quantify “no heart” or at the least provide an anecdotal example?

What is he supposed to say? Sheesh. Do you really expect him to throw the qb under the bus? Can you at least admit that it was a highly inaccurate pass and that the qb didn't deliver in a signature moment (despite a great scramble and good decision)?