dave mcbride

I can’t recall when and where, but I watch a lot of games and a I guess you’ll have to take it on faith. Gene Steratore said essentially the same. Again, this is about the stupidest hill to die on I could ever imagine.

Plus, he flipped the ball to the ref! That is both intent and a clear action.

I have seriously seen this happen multiple times in other games. It is common. Trust me.

It was deep in the end zone, he hadn’t returned it all game, and it was clear that he wasn’t going to return it on this one. It was just a dumb call by the ref, who sadly created moon landing material for Bills fans that’ll likely plague this board for the next decade. Advice — this is a very bad hill to die on.

Worst I have ever been subjected too, and it wasn’t close. And how about MacFarland’s idiotic playcalling advice — saying the Bills should run a draw with 15 seconds to go In the game and no timeouts on third down and then spiking it.

But it wasn’t “called.” As soon as it happened, the sub refs ran out and basically said, “you’re mad, bro,” and the call was corrected. No review, no replay, just a a conference in which the refs applied common sense. No one is saying that the Bills didn't screw up. They probably deserved to lose. In close games, though, refereeing tilts can matter.

It’s ambiguous, but a rule-of-reason interpretation would find that that amounted to a touchback. Kneeling isn’t required, as far as I can tell. If a ball gets to the end zone and touches the ground, it’s an automatic touchback. There’s no need for a player to pick it up and kneel, or even catch a ball if it’s headed for the end zone and they don’t intend to return it. This is a small time saver, but the goal is to blow a play dead earlier so that unnecessary collisions don’t happen. Under the previous rules, a player could take their time gathering a ball and kneeling while the coverage team and return team blockers still careened toward each other for no reason.

Um ... that wasn’t actually called. And it wasn’t a penalty anyways.

I am telling you - I have seen this multiple times throughout the league, and gene steratore said this too. It’s always treated as a touch back.

The first penalty on ford was really ticky tack too. A lot of helmets get grazed on most plays in the the battle between o-lines and d-lines. It’s never called unless delberate/blatant. It was a big play that killed a drive.

Given the truly dreadful over-the-top pro-Texans announcing last night and the Watt love fest, I have my suspicions.

It actually happens all of the time. That is the new way to signal “I’m not returning”, and I’ve seen it numerous times throughout the league. More to the point, this is a disaster of a thread and basically moon landing stuff for the nuttiest of Bills fans.

There were five called in all: 2 on Tunsil for false starts, 2 deliberate delay of game penalties on punts, and the offsetting post-play PFs after the Hopkins fumble and recovery by the Bills (and I don’t know why Hughes was called for anything; he seemed to be on the periphery of that scrum). Given the offset, they were penalized only 4 times for 20 yards. Only 2 - the false starts upon Tunsil - negatively affected them. Anyway, the Texans racked up zero in-play penalties in a really long game filled with crazy plays. Zero in a what was essentially a five-quarter game. Call me suspicious. The Bills had a garden-variety 7 penalties called for 64 yards (6 penalties were called in regulation, I think, which is normal). Ford was flagged twice, and both were very ticky tack. The hands to the face call only seems to get called when the facemask is clearly held or the hand pushes the chin up hard and deliberately. Ford barely grazed The defender, and it wasn’t intentional.

Um ... the play did stop the clock, which the Bills needed ...

I get this, but it is a terrible glitch in the rules. Basically, people pay watch a sporting event, and 1/29 of that sporting event that we pay to watch or attend evaporates into a non-sports activity because the league didn’t anticipate this problem. It’s not sports. I am too. I wanted Hyde to take a knee on that Offside kick he recovered, not run it in. Make it a sure thing. The pats had their heavy personnel in on that play and Lynch had been bad all season long on 4th and goal fro around the one. Don’t be so sure he would have scored.

Allowing the clock to run on those plays has to stop. That is terrible for the game —burning off time via non-sports non-activities in a competitive sporting event. The league has to fix that. It is a glitch in the rules and terrible for the game.

It was weird but not alligator arms

“Alligator arms” refers to when a player doesn’t extend his arms in order to avoid a hit. That’s not what happened.

It was late.

The db got his hand in there before it hit his hands. It wasn’t PI, however. look — at the end of the day, williams is a undrafted street free agent/practice squad guy who was playing in canada. He’s not great and performed about as well as could be hoped for.

But it’s actually not. DBs make those plays all the time. Deandre hopkins makes that catch, but he’s one of two all pros. Not many of those.

I thought the throw to brown was late. Brown didn’t have much of a chance. He did make some great throws, but 24-46 was pretty representative of how he played

Tough catch though too - duke wasn’t able to separate and the DB was right there. He got his hand in there, which caused the breakup.

It was a very poor decision. The DB was all over that play. He made some good plays, but overall he certainly didn’t do enough win — ie, get the team to 20 points. They don’t score enough to be a really good team, and while he needs more weapons and an upgrade at RT, a lot of it is on him. He can’t remain as nad as he is now in blitz situations.

I suggest we keep him.