dave mcbride

There is an effective vaccine that has been given to hundreds of millions of people with no deaths (Moderna/Pfizer). They can get vaccinated.

Marcellus was the king of the vulture sack in his time with the Bills. Don't get me wrong - vulture sacks are valuable!

Again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis#/media/File:White-rumped_vulture_(Gyps_bengalensis)_Photograph_by_Shantanu_Kuveskar.jpg

Channeling @BADOLBILZ ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis#/media/File:White-rumped_vulture_(Gyps_bengalensis)_Photograph_by_Shantanu_Kuveskar.jpg

Ward is good. You need many corners.

Damn. Newsome was who I wanted.

All I'm saying is that Elway wasn't carried by his team to SB wins. He was one of the best qbs in the league those years and actually a SB MVP.

The true hardcore folks play this game through round 7!

Oh come on. Elway was sensational in his final few seasons. He put up three of the highest 4 AV numbers (PFR's WAR equivalent for the NFL; last column) in those 3 seasons: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/ElwaJo00.htm. And what does Manning's 2013 season have to do with this?

?? - Elway's best statistical seasons by far were 1993 and the final three seasons of his career (1996-1998). He was a legit pro bowl QB for both of those SB-winning teams in 1997-98. And he was the deserved SB MVP vs Atlanta, averaging nearly 12 yards per pass play.

Trevor Pryce was a really good player for a long time, folks!

Yeah, Hopkins! He's obviously great.

You should edit this post and acknowledge Jerry Butler. There are a lot of good NFL players from Clemson. People forget guys like Trevor Pryce, but he was a great player.

And Sammy is at least pretty good and has flashed some greatness. He won't have a career that measures up to his draft status, but he's probably going to end up with 500 receptions provided he stays reasonably healthy. This has more info. Sort by AV and you'll see. Lots of good players. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/clemson/index.htm

... and 3 losing seasons in 29 years, 3 SB appearances, and 9 conference championship games. They are a great franchise. NE's success skews everyone's outlook. Only Denver and Dallas have 3 SB victories in that same time span. And Dallas hasn't been to even a conference championship game since 1995.

What if they've decided that Love might not be that good?

Totally agree, Yolo.

Again, disregard the school. Look at the player. Which UCLA QB was good before Aikman? Which Michigan QB before Brady? And which ND QB has been any good since Theismann/Montana? Which BYU qb since Steve Young? The school is basically meaningless. I mean, LSU went nearly 50 years before producing a good NFL QB again (the last one being Bert Jones).

I could be wrong. I also suspect that they weren't particularly thrilled with Star last season. But I'm guessing here. I just don't think they want guys who think there's a bigger world out there than football and the team culture that goes with it.

I totally disagree. He is in my opinion the best route runner as a RB since Marshall Faulk. He actually showed those skills in the first bills game this past season but was yanked into a hamstring injury by AJ Klein (which saved a TD). He is the best wheel route runner I've seen since Thurman. But as I said, dumb as a box of rocks. Also, you appear to be fixated on ypc. Focus on ypt. There was hardly a huge drop in his final year there, and 6.2 probably led all RBs (although I'd need to look it up).

I don't believe in schools being indicative of QBs. When I was growing up, it was a truism that all Michigan QBs sucked in the pros -- until it wasn't true. A number of years ago, I went through every big time program on this board for the past 40 or so years, and Cal and Stanford were the top producers of big time qbs -- and they only issued 2-3. Alabama, of course, produced Stabler and Namath, and who's to say they won't do it again? Who was the last Wyoming QB who was any good? TCU? Ole Miss? Arizona? Wisconsin? Clemson? Texas A & M? NC State? The list goes on and on. Point is, don't get fooled into reading anything into where the player went. Judge the player.

Bell has always been about the elite receiving skills. And don't just look at the ypc - look at the yards per target. If he's getting 8-10 yards per catch and catching it an 80 percent rate, that's as good as a WR getting a 12 ypc average at a 65 percent rate. He had 8.1 yards per target in his awesome second season, and pretty much always above 6 -- which is valuable for a high target (80 receptions) guy. Bell is an odd bird in any case -- he was set up to have multiple great seasons Pitt but is as dumb as a box of rocks. Problem of the profession.

Just my opinion, but I think Fields would probably bomb in SF. For an immediate winner, I'd take Mac Jones any day of the week, at least in the context of the SF scheme. That's not to say he'll be better five years down the road, but as you say Shanahan needs to have a winning season.

At the end of the day, my sense is that McDermott wants no part of people who opted out. Maybe I'm reading too much into his "cultural mindset" (broadly conceived, if you know what I mean), but that's my sense. I could well be wrong.