dave mcbride

Belichick was a longtime DC, not a ST coach. Yeah, I’d try to keep him as ST coach/assistant HC, but he is not the answer. They were a very lucky team this season.

If he has poor circulation, then the foot stomping won't hurt that much.

He's not running those deeper crossers (15-20 yards) he got open on frequently last year, though. He made a living doing that last year. This year he just looks a lot slower and less explosive.

Edmunds played great in the Jets game. All over the field and a presence in coverage. There's a reason Wilson took all of those sacks.

Tampa was apparently locked in on Vita Vea.

Man, take it easy. I literally said that I misread what you were saying. Take the W with grace instead of doing the victory lap. The Bills didn't have a top-of-the-first-half-of-the-first-round pick in a top-heavy draft and needed one to get Allen. They possibly could have traded both their firsts to get there. Instead, they unloaded Cordy Glenn. It was a great trade. Full stop, end of story. I honestly don't even know what you're arguing about.

I think we're talking past each other and I think I missed your point. Yes, trading 21 and 22 to get to 12 is obviously doable. That said, keeping that #21 pick in your back pocket as a bargaining chip if the bidding gets hot and heavy for Allen while sacrificing Cordy Glenn on the altar is far better than the reverse. Anyway, why trade those 2 picks for 12 when you can unload just one of them plus a big-contract player whose time is basically up instead?

Great move, but not underrated!

I don't think anyone thought he was the man. They thought he was decent, which he was. Flawed and limited but with positive attributes too.

Disagree. The value of a 12 is huge in a draft with high-level talent in the top half of the first. The #22 pick doesn't help you get the Roquan Smiths of the world. Outside of Lamar Jackson, who a lot of teams didn't want, the picks after Derwin James are pretty mediocre overall. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/draft.htm. More importantly, Miami's #11 and AZ's #10 were FAR more valuable for a move up possibility than Buffalo's #22. Beane presumably knew that.

To be fair to Haack, he was having a terrible game, but in crunch time, he came through, nailing the Jets at the 2. They couldn't move it, the Bills got good field position as a result, and the rest was history. I always admire players who fight through adversity and doing something good in the end.

I'd simply add moving up 10 in the first round to the top half is way more valuable in a rich QB draft than a straight-up second round pick.

Young was faster though - 4.55 40 time, which back in the early 80s was blazing.

Both Miami and AZ would have taken Allen. Gase LOVED Allen and thought he was generational player (he was right about that). AZ loved him too but had to settle for Rosen. Without that 12th pick, the Bills wouldn't have had the high-end ammo.

My recollection was that they basically regarded themselves as a playoff caliber team with major o-line needs. They went to the playoffs every year from 2011-2015 and went 12-4 in 2015. They hovered around at just below .500 in 2016 and 2017 and attributed much of the decline to o-line failings. They were desperate.

Totally agree about the injuries. It's obviously an issue. My point is that when he's out there, he tends to play well and the team tends to win.

I gotta go with flipping Cordy Glenn and the #22 pick for Cincy's #12 pick before the 2018 draft. That was highway robbery and the single most important reason they were able to get Allen.

Enh ... they score so many rushing touchdowns and run for so many yards that the raw passing numbers don't matter so much to me. I focus on efficiency, and on that front he's been very good. And with regard to when he's not starting, they're not just bad, they're REALLY bad: 7-27 in the games he didn't start during the seasons he's been there.

Yet ... 33-14 with a lifetime 8.4 ypa. And this is a team that loses a lot more than it wins when he doesn't play. I mean, he led the league this year in net yards per pass attempt and in yards per completion.

Wow - Jimmy G's career ypa average is 8.4. That is insanely good. Talk about underrated players ... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GaroJi00.htm

Garrapalo would do well in that offense.

I think a little bit. I don't think missing a couple of days of practice that late in the season matters much.

You were definitely right about Wentz. I thought he was moderately above average for most of the season, but these last two weeks ... ai yi yi. He was flat-out horrible vs. Jax. I watched that game from start to finish, more or less, out of morbid fascination. he didn't actually miss any time. He started all 17 games.

Trubisky's 2018 season was good: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TrubMi00.htm. Make sure to look at the rushing stats too - 421 yards and 3 rushing TDs. Agreed. See immediately above. I'm on it.

This is a good topic and a good poll, @Alphadawg7.