John Adams

Just curious if that affects the way you vote.

I was wondering how you guys would be spinning this! "The swamp won this round" is a fantastic way to go. You guys were saying Rosenstein, Strzrok, and a myriad of others would be behind bars, treason would be clear to America, the DS "war" would be known, etc. Wah wah waaaaaaah

Will you be proud of all time you spent here at PPP?

Or he's nuts. Take your pick.

Odds of me reading that wall of text in response to me calling you an idiot: 0%.

You're an idiot.

Either or both.

Would you say Trump solicited a contribution or thing of value in connection with an election?

“By the way, likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine.” Sorry it’s not in a phone call.

“Could” have ”some sort of evidence” ...sounds definitive. Big news coming soon? Awesome!

List of people Trump named to fulfill his anti corruption "duty" Hunter Biden Joseph Biden List of people named who were running for president Joseph Biden Not politically motivated? Only Trump U graduates would buy that.

The ass he pulled his head out of is using Yeldon and not DiMarco as the man in motion and out wide. All this, "They use DiMarco to help Josh read the defense" stuff is crap when it turns out DiMarco is useless in the pass game. Yeldon can do the same exact thing, but with a guy who caught 60+ passes each of the last two years. Josh still was not good but Daboll's slow adjustments didn't help.

So far I see withheld aid, a "transcript" and today a bunch of texts and emails. None of that is "false," it's just information. And it shows a sitting president pressuring a foreign president to investigate his leading rival by name and with an obsession. The political bias of the investigation is without question, but I am focusing in this thread on the evidence they are finding, which isn't nothing.

Interesting reports from yesterday. US drafting statements for Zelensky re Burisma. No Burisma mentions = no visit to Oval. Is Burisma the on!y corrupt company in Ukraine? Or is it that it's related to Trump's lead opponent's son? At what point does interfering in Ukraine's politics go too far? I Investigate my lead rival. Here's a statement from Ukraine president. Revise the statement to mention Hunter Biden co. No statement no meeting with President. I expect the bus to run over Giuliani soon. We had a "loose cannon." what about isms Focus power grasshopper. This is about Trump's actions.

Trump's conduct is horrific and as close to violating the election law as you can get. Not that he's caring about that law.

Yeah, that's what I said Simple Simon. See above. See above. Not relevant to election laws dingus. See above.

Did you play O Fortuna as you wrote this? Unlike you, I can see the pox on more than one house. And it's not part of some stupid storyline.

Our sitting president is publicly asking foreign leaders to dig up dirt on his political rival. Sure, that's great.

He doesn't seem to care about election laws and sounds like a 3rd world despot. Yay 'merica.

Your cheeleaders are coming. Foxx can do it, he's our man, if he can't do it, Hedge sure can!

"Investigate Joe Biden" the only bad guy I'll name by name and my lead political rival. Whether this violates the election laws is unlikely, but that's the ONLY avenue anyone can go down towards impeachment and it's not good enough to get there right now. Dems are shooting themselves in the foot and now hoping against hope something else comes out. Most of what you call "the media" is headlong into impeachment and tons of side nonsense. Most of "your media" is similarly engaged. I am looking at a very small handful of facts that show poor judgment and probably nothing impeachable. It's Trump dancing right up to the line.

Did I say there was a quid pro quo? I said there was probably leverage, and there appears to be some solicitation of a favor, call it in kind assistance, to help his campaign. And not impeachable. You guys bring lots of other stuff into it. I've pretty much just lived on the only evidence we have. Trump admitted to withholding aid. Text of "transcript." Congress got up Trump's ass.

Look who's interpreting. I stated a fact. Look who's interpreting. I stated a fact. You're about as good at reading the transcript as Deranged Rhino who said Zelensky brought up the aid first. The first person to mention Biden is Trump, and he introduces it out of the blue: "The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me." Said another way, you're wrong. And an idiot. But DR liked your post! Lots of interpretation again here. "Zelensky said he didn't feel coerced" is one of my favorites in the line of defenders. It's shocking that the guy who wants several hundred million in US aid didn't throw Trump under the bus, isn't it? Conspiracy? I just keep pointing to the transcript. You can't even read that correctly. Do NOT defend me. I'd rather you throw me a cinder block while drowning.

No doubt. The Dems are morons. Warren cannot win in states where Trump has weakness, which means she cannot win.

Or did I say Trump used aid as leverage? I repeat the facts and I'll do it again for you. - Trump withheld aid. - Trump raised US aid to Ukraine on call. - Trump asked Zelensky to look into his leading political rival by name. - Trump released aid when Congress got up his ass. I think I've repeated that narrative about 20 times now. You could make something like a drinking game out of it if you so chose, and that would be good, because you'd be drinking to the facts. Another thing you could drink to that I've said is that without more, those facts do not add up to impeachment. There's no conspiracy. Trump didn't cover anything up. He's just unabashed about soliciting foreign leaders for help in his campaign.