John Adams

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Sick of the scientific method? Sick of the religion of science? Try this- fictionology

Please check the box that applies: ___ Homo, and/or [edit- thank you VA] ___ Smoker, and/or ___ member of a gym (no gays allowed), OR [edit] ___ member of a gym (some gay members) [edit] No other topics need be discussed in this thread. Thank you.

Keep calling me gay, O expert on my personal life. That's some olive branch.

Someone please point me to the gym that doesn't have gay members. (Heh. Heh. "Members" again.)

And I'm the a-hole, Bill? Seems like plenty of people are hostile to you in this thread. If you find yourself a different side of a topic than me, I'll post. How I want. If the moderators don't like it, they will delete my post. And you can keep taking gay shots, because you know so much about my personal life.

I wasn't the only person who pointed out the absurdity in your original post. And you keep making those veiled accusations. Coming from someone who admittedly enjoys a round object between their lips, they are amusing.

What is it that you're not judging? That I go to a gym?

You're welcome- nothing personal. You can post on any topic you want. And when you do, I can comment. I don't work gays into every topic. I talk about the issue when it comes up, or post articles when something arises. You can't take a breath without comparing someone's plight to that of smokers. It's trying.

My pleasure. Irish, African-Americans, Jews, Asians, Cigarette Smokers, and Unionized Workers I think I'll let your list bash itself. There might be a difference between "discrimination" against the bolded and non-bolded. Maybe not. How many non-Union people does Toyota employ in the US? 250,000. Those people like outsourcing just fine. GM placed an order for 50,000 engines earlier this year. To be made in the U.S. By what company? Honda. And congratulations on the first post- no mention of the plight of smokers. You couldn't go two in a row though, so your record is still 1 in a row.

Mmm. Deadwoodish. Cocksvckers.

When Homer Simpson was sent to hell, he was put in front of a conveyor that fed him endless donuts. The devil was so frustrated that the "torture" didn't work, he sent him back to earth. Is it your habit to quote other people rather than make your own points? Does that bolster your pseudointellectual prowess?

Boycotting the hearings will show them. Show them that ID should be taught.

Why should we care about science anyways? As long as some country is being ingenius, we can just buy crap from them. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Did someone call a trademark attorney? Who needs to be sued?

Why is this pinned?

The articles say that he occasionally spoke and even could sometimes follow commands. That's not PVS.

Ann Coulter is barely human. She's picked a persona, and both Republicans and Democrats are buying her crap hook, line, and sinker.

Who says it's eye witness account? The accounts in the gospels were recorded, at the earliest, 30-60 years after Jesus' death. That's not an eyewitness account- or at least- it's an eyewitness account 30-60 years removed from the event. As to things left out, all three accounts relate different stories- so each leaves several things out. The NT leaves out thirty years. Maybe those 30 years were originally recorded. Maybe not. Maybe a few pages got lost since the original recording. Whatever. Neither of us knows, and Brown's idea was...again...fiction, filling in some of that gap.

Agreed so far. You gave me no reason to think otherwise until this post. Moving on... I am with you pretty much until the bolded part. I understand both Brown and Greene's points. I didn't like the DaVinci Code's point that much, and Brown's writing is horrific, but I did think he weaved several facts together into a creative story. His book, to me, read like a first draft of what could have been a much better book. I do not think that books of fiction are meaningless and disposable. (As an aside outside the bounds of this topic, I abhor that I used Greene and Brown in the same context, but chose Greene because of the Catholic ties. Brown couldn't hold Greene's jock.) I do not dismiss them because they write fiction. I dismiss people who overstate what Dan Brown's book means- its danger or whatever. It's pure pulp fiction. To the extent it got people interested in Church bashing or Church reforms, it was not all that successful in its point. I work with a load of Catholics. They all read it. They all liked it. They all still go to Mass and dismiss it as a good story at best. I doubt it succeeded in making people believe that an Order of Catholics protects the true bloodline of Jesus Christ. If it did, those people are idiots. No. Such was the point of The Life of Pi. Fictional stories, such as the Bible, are the most effective way to make a point. The DaVinci Code is a long ways from being as influential as the Bible, because it was a piece of fiction with only the most meager of points. Beauxsox's issue with the DC was somehow that its inaccuracies undermined its point, or something like that. Which was foolish, because the inaccuracies are either intentional (the book is fiction) or they are not (and again, who cares- it's fiction). Your point is a different one, and despite the fact that you're obnoxious, I think we agree for the most part.

McCulloch's Truman is awesome. By the same author though, and #2 in your sequence of presidents, ME!

Cheers to TD.

Very Catholic of you.

Most of us are.

You think? Don't mistake his federalist leanings for socialism. He believed that a strong federal government was critical to preserve the ideals of the states. John Adams helped forge the country and the IDEA of limited government. He would, no doubt, be appalled by the very idea of a system of income tax and the oppressive monster that is the federal government-- remember, this is the man who lauded the dumping of the tea in Boston Harbor- a protest agaisnt a sales tax- as a "bold...daring... epocha."