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Estro

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  1. Lol. The fact that no one from the Bills game day management, would find it odd to charge $2 for a soft drink or snapple, but $5 for a water is so Bills. Don't think the ineptitude of this organization is only on the field. I've been a season ticket holder since 2002, and the entire gameday operations has often left my brother and I scratching our heads.
  2. After my extreme confusion why the Bills would give him $35M in the first 2 years rather than the $25M they have him for now, if we extend him in the $15-$17M range per on a long term deal it's beginning to make a lot more sense. I always thought 4 years for $70M or 5 years for around $85M is probably where the Bills wanted to be. I myself would've had Tyrod play out this year to get another 16 games of information on him before going all in money wise on him, but it appears the Bills are set on extending him now. We probably won't know for at least another 2 seasons maybe even 3 if this is a wise decision. I hope it is, but Im curious why they wouldn't just wait one more season
  3. I've kind of conservatively thought that Lawson would be back after our bye week. Week 10 vs the Bengals. If he's just barely ready by week 7 or 8, I figured the BILLS would use the bye to their advantage and get him another 2 weeks of healing.
  4. Osweiler was a FA. Tyrod is under contract for $3M this year. There's no comparison to be drawn there. So we are going to overpay Tyrod $10M over 2 years so we can save $ on Gilmires's contract. That doesn't make any sense. Once again, I understand extensions excite fan bases, but this one makes no sense without a 3rd and possibly 4th year on the extension for team friendly salaries.
  5. Bills can pay Tyrod $3M this year and $22M under the tag. So they have him for $25M the next 2 years. For the Bills to pay him $35M over the next 2 years would be absolutely asinine. They would essentially be giving him a $10M raise, for what? The only way this chatter makes sense is if there is 3rd year on the deal for a team friendly $15-$16 M salary. Basically 2 years $35M makes no sense 3 years $51M makes some sense. With that said.....I just don't understand doing an extension now. I'd want to see him prove his worth this year before committing serious $. If Tyrod and his agent beat the Bills on this deal, my confidence in Whaley will take a big hit.
  6. Once again someone at 1 Bills Drive is chirping. Same sh*t, different day. I'm 50/50 when it comes to Whaley. There's things I like and things I really dislike. His trend of always wanting to trade up in he draft is concerning. I'm also waiting to see how he handles this Tyrod contract. I'm worried that the reports of $35M over 2 years maybe true. If so Whaley would be giving Tyrod an additional $10M over the next 2 seasons for no reason. That would truly be concerning.
  7. I agree about the twitter. I follow him and he post the most immature sh*t. I actually took notice last season. Just posts a bunch of wacky, insecure, look at me type crap that comes across as totally immature and knuckleheaded. If I were an owner or a coach I'd sit down with this guy and ask him to remove himself from social media. I just have a gut feeling about this guy that he's not going to change his ways. We have him for another 2-3 years so no way I'd cut him, but I just don't see this dog learning any new tricks.
  8. If we don't resign him now Tyrod plays for $3M this season. If he plays lights out we give him the franchise tag (if unable to workout a long term deal) for about $21 or $22 million. So bills have Tyrod for 2 years $25M as it stands now, with the ability to not commit one dollar more if he plays terribly this year. If they decide to rip up this deal and replace it with 2 years $30M they are not only giving him $5M extra but they are locking into next year before seeing this year's results. It makes absolutely no sense. The only way a deal like this becomes favorable for the Bills is to add a team option 3rd year to the deal that is totally unguaranteed. And that 3rd year would need to be south of $18M for me to want to do it. Now you have Tyrod for let's say: $12M in '16 $18M in "17 $18M in '18 Total 3 years $48M As opposed to: $3M in '16 $21M in '17 (franchise tag) $25.5M in '18 (franchise tag) Total 3 years $49.5M At least in this scenario the Bills are saving $1.5 M, but even with that, I personally wouldn't want to do that deal because I'm not protected against Tyrod totally imploding, as the Bills currently are. I really think they should let this season play out.
  9. Question would it be a 2 year $30M extension. Or would they rip us this year and start the 2 year $30M now. If it's the first the Bills are essentially getting a 3 year $33M deal which is terrific. If it's the latter the Bills are giving Tyrod a huge raise and are not really getting anything in return. Can someone please clarify which it is?
  10. I hope this is Sal's logic and not the Bills because it's terrible business. The Bills currently have Tyrod under contract for an extremely team friendly deal for this year. Why would you possibly give him a huge raise this season, with no commitment for future years, other than to be just nice and throw around Terry Pegula's money? If he's going to get a significant raise for this year than he needs to commit to at least 2 additional years for maybe $15-$16 million per year. It's not smart to give someone a huge raise just because, and if it were to do down this way I'd have serious concerns about not only Whaley but the Pegulas. You would think they would be better negotiators than that. Let's assume the following: Tyrod plays out his contract this year for $3M Tyrod gets franchise tag for '17 and makes $21M Tyrod gets franchise tag for '18 and makes $25M What we essentially have is a 3 year $49M deal. That's just under $16.5M per year, which is a great deal assuming he's playing well, and if he totally craps the bed you don't need to give him the franchise tag so it protects the team against an implosion. Obviously, it's not ideal to absorb huge franchise tag cap hits, which is why the Bills are probably eager to do an extension, but in no way should the Bills offer more than that $49M over the first 3 years. Just bad business deal if they do, which they did do with Shady after trading for him, so you never know.
  11. Look at it this way: If Tyrod plays out his deal for $3M and plays well, he'll likely be looking for $18-$20M per year. Say the Bills gave him 4 years $72M. If you factor in this year at $3M, that would be a total of 5 years - $75M. What I'm trying to say is a $15M a year deal now is the same as a $20M a year deal next year, due to his low price in '16. Tyrod's agent might prefer the optics of a $20M per year deal, but it's going to be tough to turn down a hefty amount of guaranteed $ now. It sounds to me like Tyrod and his agent are prepared to blink. 4 years for $66M, is what I predict.
  12. Bills are in the power of position now. They won't be next offseason when they'll be forced to either pay him 0r tag him. I understand the dilemma because they have him for such a low price this year. I think if he gets a new deal soon it will reflect a healthy hometown discount. Probably in the $15- $16M range. If he plays good this year he'll likely be asking for $19-$20M
  13. Gilmore is a $12M/year CB. Problem is Norman got $15M/year with tons of guarantees. So, Gilmore on the open market is probably going to command at least $14M per, and I don't think the Bills will go there with him. If Bills don't use franchise on Tyrod, Gilmore will be a prime candidate for the tag next year. The tag will likely be a touch over $14M in '17. He's set to make $11M this year. So we control his next 2 years for $25M, if we can use the tag on him next year, which seems like a fair value. For a player that's missed 3-4 games per year, I'd be hesitant to do a long term deal with Stephon. Let him play out '17 and then see where you're at. By then maybe you decide to give an extension to Darby and let Gilmore walk, picking up a 3rd round comp. pick in the process.
  14. I'm not a fan of the John Murphy show. I'm also not a fan of his GameDay calls. I actually think he seems like a good guy and he's talented at what he does, it's just not my taste. I know Mike Schopp gets a lot of grief, but I think he's great. I feel like I've learned a lot by listening to his show, even if it not always positive. Why should it be anyways, the Bills haven't made the playoffs since 99. Murphys show, on the other hand is just so vanilla and boring. You can definitely tell the Bills sign his checks.
  15. Murph is a thumbs down for me. Too much of a cheer leader, too vanilla and boring. My favorites on WGR are Schopp, Matthew Coller and Bulldog. Say what you want about Schopp, but he's interesting to listen to. His being negative toward the Bills often, isn't a drawback IMO, it's just him being honest. Most the time his takes are well thought out and intelligent, even if they aren't popular. Matthew Coller is the hidden gem on WGR. Very smart, very analytical, you feel like a smarter fan after you listen to him. Not a big Jeremy White fan either. Maybe it has something to do with his constant liberal political whining on twitter.
  16. I think the Josh Norman deal handed out by the Redskins really screwed up things between the Bills and Gilmore. I think the sweet spot for a Gilmore deal was $12.5M-$13.5M per year. With Norman getting $15M per year and a massive amount of his contract guaranteed (he gets $36.5M in the first 2 years of the deal.....INSANITY!), I suspect Gilmore and his agent are probably asking for the moon. I don't think Gilmore is worth the moon, BTW. He's a nice player and one you want on your team, but the Bills have the leverage in this situation. Let him play out this year under his cap hit of $11.08M. You can always use the franchise tag on him next season which will be around $14M. Worst case scenario we have him for the next 2 years at roughly $25M. Sounds good to me. The Bills would be smart to control the asset, that is Gilmore, for the next 2 seasons at $25M. No reason for a big extension now, who knows in 2 years maybe you decide to extend Darby and have another solid CB on the come up and you can let Gilmore walk......and fetch a 3rd round compensatory pick in the process by letting him walk. Don't forget Gilmore has missed 11 games the past 3 seasons. I wouldn't call him injury prone, but consistently missing a handful of games each season the past 3 years would make me even more hesitant to shell out top dollar right now. Just doesn't make good business sense on the Bills part.
  17. Probaby did something stupid that he shouldn't have been doing on his own time huh?
  18. Then why wait to get the surgery done? That's what I don't understand. With an injury that might take 5-6 months to recover from every week matters and the Bills just wasted 2 and a half weeks. This makes me think that the Bills intentions were to get through this year and have the surgery after the season, as has been reported. The fact that he got hurt doing a swim move vs. a tackling dummy calls into question, how the Bills were so misled to think he could make it through an entire season.
  19. And 1 is guaranteed to land on IR after his first route!
  20. Jahri Evans have anything left in the tank? Played RG for most of his career. Not sure the Bills are looking for help at G, considering they wanted Slauson to play T. Too bad we missed out on Slauson.....he def. woud've upgraded the line probably for a fairly reasonable price too.
  21. Glenn's cash flow is: Year 1 - $19M Year 2 - $11M Year 3 - $11.25M Total - $41.25M Compare that to the other top deals and you can see Cordy is #2 in the league, second only to Trent Williams cash flow: Terron Armstead: Year 1: $11.72M Year 2: $9.3M Year 3: $10.3M Total: $31.32M Year 1: $15.5M Year 2: $16.97M Year 3: $11.5M Total: $43.97M Cap tip to Glenn and his agent, I think they did a real nice job here. Side comment, a contract this massive and with this much money on the frontside of the contract makes me feel supremely confident the Bills will have a deal done with Gilmore in due time. It's very tough to turn down $30M over 2 years in a sport where you can injure your body and be done for good. Gilmore has made just over $12M over his career, it'll be tough to turn down a $18M signing bonus, which is probably what the Bills will offer.
  22. We've heard Glenn will get $19M in year 1 and $11M in year 2. My best guess is that Glenn got a $13-$15M signing bonus with the rest in the form of a base salary in '16 to get him to the $19M that's been reported. So his cap hit will either be $8.6M if he got a $13M signing bonus or $7M if he receives a $15M SB. So expect a cap savings in the neighborhood of $5-6M I think Glenn's contract will look like this: 2016- $13M signing bonus, $6M base salary, $8.6M cap hit 2017- $4M roster bonus, $7M base salary, $10.6M cap hit 2018- $10M base salary, $13.6M cap hit 2019- $9.5M base salary, $13.1M cap hit 2020- $10.5M base salary, $14.1M cap hit As you can see my 5 year deal contains $60M, as Tyler Dunne reported it' actually a $60M deal with $5M in incentives to possibly push the deal to a total of $65M. And finally if the Bills are interested in keeping those '18-'20 cap hits down a bit they can simply reduce the size of the roster bonus in '17 or the size of the singing bonus this year.
  23. #'s on Terron Armstead's deal are in: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/terron-armstead/ Still awaiting the breakdown of Glenn's contract.
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