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If the Bills had won they still would've needed all of the following to happen in week 17: 1. Beat Jets 2. Raiders over Broncos 3.Texans over Titans 4. Bengals over Ravens Bout a 1 in 16 chance, and you know the Bills would've prob. lost to the Jets had they actually won this week, since they can never take care of their own business. Will be interesting to see how these 4 results turn out next week though. Will be pretty freaking aggravating if this all happens. What a pity, this franchise is and has been.

Well said. Shanahan jr. Should be at the top of the list. I dont think he'd want to come to Buffalo tho. Between the Pegulas, russ, and whaley.....why would you if you had other options and im quute certain shanahan jr. Is going to have other options. What hes done with atlanta this year has been great and id have a lot more faith in him developing a qb and an offensive system that this entire fanbase yearns for. With that said it sounds like the favorites are coughlin and lynn. Not sure either is the right move. Lynn will probably get the nod if they want to keep tyrod along with whaley and russ. I suspect if Coughlin is the pick russ stays and whaley probably stays but tyrod is a goner. Don't think Tyrod is the type of qb Coughlin would want. If they want shanny or a legit up and comer i thnk theyll need to sever ties with the old guard and it just seems theyre not ready to do that, which will likely lead us all to discussing the same exact thing in 2-3 years when we fire Coughlin or Lynn

He plaued much better the seconf galf of the season, but I still dont want to pay him big bucks. If this team is serious about starting over with a new coach and new qb, it mught be time to let some high priced guys walk and receive the high conpensatory picks that ho with that. Im noy sure signing defensive players yo massive deals is yhe eay yo go in this league. I certainly know Bill Bellechick doesnt believe in that philosophy. Id like to see some more money spent on the offense.

Romo, is far & away the best choice.....And with Romo you still draft a QB high in both the 2017 and 2018 draft. Hope 1 of those 2 picks or Cardale is ready to go when Romo is toast in 2 years.

I've played around with NY Times Playoff simulator enough that I can confidently tell you.....Denver's game, oddly enough, next week vs. the Chiefs is meaningless. Win or Lose the Bills are alive. The game that matters with concern to Denver is in week 17. They must lose to the Raiders (that game is in Denver) in week 17. If Denver wins in week 17 the Bills are eliminated from the playoffs. Yes, I agree. The Bills winning will probably be the toughest part of the equation, honestly. The Titans and the Texans come from behind wins today really, really hurt the Bills. If those 2 comebacks didn't occur, the Bills would've been sitting in a much better position.

There was a lot of disagreement on Shaq Lawson the prospect. A few "scout" type guys that I follow of twitter, including Matt Waldman, who does a lot of nice video breakdowns, really disliked Shaq Lawson. While he liked his overall power and stoutness against the run, he thought he was extremely slow, stiff, and many times the very last DL to react to the snap. He had some pictures of the entire Clemson DL already 1 or 2 steps out of their stance on the snap and Shaq would just be getting his hand out of the dirt. Also very slow, and no bend coming off the edge. Said you can find run stoppers in the 3rd and 4th round and really didn't understand the 1st round hype surrounding the guy. So far, I tend to agree with what his tape showed.

All of the following things must happen for Bills to have playoff hopes heading into week 17 (HOME team in CAPS): 1. BILLS (-3.5) over Dolphins 2. STEELERS (-5.5) over Ravens coupled with 1 of the following things happening (better if both happen, but if only 1 happens, the Bills are alive): 3. JAGUARS (+4.5) over Titans (Go St. Doug!) OR 4. Cincinnatti (+2) over TEXANS

Tyrod. He is bad and getting worse. A decent QB, makes everybody else on that list look a lot better. The problem is a few people on that list are the ones responsible for the QB position to begin with. But I still think Tyrod is the biggest problem. He's a QB that can't throw the ball well in a league where you must throw the ball well, it's as simple as that.

http://media.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/photo/2015/10/02/russ-brandon-doug-marrone-b9553d7e14304469.jpg Mr. No Stone Unturned......aka Mr. Look at it in it's Totality......aka Mr. Robust Analytical Department......aka Mr. Florida Marlin World Champ......aka Mr. 17 years of Losing, but 17 years of promotions the one the only Russ "Snake Oil" Brandon May we always "Billieve" & be "All In" on the man that will "Lead the Charge"

You think they're good? That round 2-3 projection is la la land. He's a sure fire 1st rounder, #1 WR, probably top half of the 1st round, IMO.

This guy is the best WR in the upcoming draft, and the best overall offensive player in the draft IMO. It's exactly what the Bills offense needs. I know, I understand, we need a QB first, I'm just not sure there's one worth a 1st rounder. Corey Davis, on the other hand, will be a premier WR in the NFL and quickly. I'm all about building an offensive juggernaut and that starts with a real QB, and restocking our WR's, which are pretty bad.

Looks like we get a 6th round compensatory pick in the '17 draft for losing Nigel Bradham to the Eagles. http://overthecap.com/2017-compensatory-draft-picks-update-5102016/ One nugget to remember for this offseason........if the Bills decide to let Gilmore walk they will likely receive a 3rd round comp. pick in '18 if he signs a deal north of $10M per. I think this is a big part of the equation in the discussion of whether it is worth it or not to resign Gilmore. When you factor in a free 3rd round draft pick in '18 if he walks it makes me want to see the Bills let him walk. Until we find a QB I don't think any player on defense should be making big $$$. Let's take the extra pick. Robert Woods would likely give us a 4th or 5th if he leaves via FA as well. a 4th if he signs for $7M + per year, a 5th if it's in the $5.5-$7M per year range (which is prob. more likely) So Bills will have: #1 #2 #3 #5 #5 (from Dallas) #6 #6 (comp. for Bradham)

Joe Chenelley did tweet that there would be a surprise on the inactive list. Perhaps Jerry Hughes is the leading candidate at this point.

Eric Moulds was the best. The Bills haven't had a WR even close to his talent since. I think Corey Davis could be that WR if we have a shot at him in this years draft.

If the Bills want us to believe that Russ has no involvement on the football side, when there's plenty of evidence yo yhe contrary, I think its fair to expect him to have 0 input on any football hires. Unfortuantely for any of us that are not fooled by what the Bills say, we know that Russ will very much be involved, just as he was the last time.

If this is your honest opinion, and I'm afraid it might actually be, you need to start watching some other teams outside of the Bills to see what competent QB'ing looks like, because you clearly have no clue.

1. Draft Corey Davis, the best WR in the draft, with the 1st round pick 2. Trade your 2nd round pick for Tony Romo 3. Use a bunch of other picks in the '17 and '18 draft to acquire a QB. 4. Pick a HC who believes in passing offense. Who believes in going for 4th and short from the midfield. Who believes field position, running the ball, and playing good defense while important isn't the formula to winning games. Who believes and is obsessed with finding a QB who can sling the rock all over the field while standing tall and composed in the pocket.

Hopefully we do. The higher draft pick and ensuring Rex and Tyrod are both gone in '17 would be well worth it.

You weren't kidding. That was dead on and reaffirms what my eyes show me every Sunday and that is: we have a really good backup QB as our starter.

I think Rex is a problem for the Bills, but if I had to rank them I think Tyrod is the much bigger problem Tyrod has had 1 good game this year and that was vs. SEA, which was still a loss His play outside of that game has been very uneven, but mostly really poor. His pocket presence and inability to ever hit his back foot and let it go, coupled with his poor accuracy is a clear indicator that he will never be any good.

I'd be willing to trade a 2nd round pick if he really wanted to play another 2 years. As far as money, well we were willing to give Tyrod $27.5M in cash next year, and another $13M in cash in '18. That's 2 years - $40.5M so considering Romo is a much better QB than Tyrod I'd be fine with a deal that looked like 2 years - $40M. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt and we probably tank and at least have a shot at a good QB in the draft with a high draft pick. If he stays healthy, we're likely a Wild Card playoff team. Incorrect. Dallas is the one on the hook for the amortized signing bonuses and restructure bonuses. If the Bills assumed his current contract they's owe him: $14M in '17 $19.5M in '18 $20.5M in '19 So Romo's next 2 years at $33.5M total would be a relative bargain considering Tyrod would make $40.5M over those same 2 years. I'll take Romo and an additional $7M in cash to spend elsewhere on the roster 10 times out of 10 over Tyrod, a QB who I'm certain will never lead this team to the playoffs.

I took notice of Tyrod's extremely thin skin several times in pressers these last 2 seasons. It appears he thinks he's much better than he is. I've noticed a few times he'll put down the people asking the question by acting like they don't know football and he does. I think with each passing game he plays he looks more foolish taking that stance because it's becoming obvious to everyone with 2 eyes that he's a totally flawed QB. Perhaps it's his own frustration, knowing he's not getting the job done, boiling over, but he comes across real childish and insecure when he acts like a brat like that. I'm at the point with Tyrod right now that I'd actually be very disappointed if he's on our team next year. I know what he is, and I know no playoffs with him is a certainty.....so to plop down $27.5M in cash next year for that, would be the definition of asinine. I've actually been thinking of this in the context of what teams would be willing to pay him.... I don't think any team, after extensive film study of his game, would give him more than $15M per season, and I think even that amount would be too much. I think most of the league wouldn't even consider him because of how poorly he played this season coupled with his unorthodox (can't sit and run an offense in a pocket) playing style. That would leave only a handful of teams and I can't see anyone wanting to commit more than $15M guaranteed to a player with so many holes in his game. That's what makes the Bills decision to pay him $27.5M in cash next year that much easier, IMO. If you have a player that every other team in the league wouldn't pay half what you are getting ready to pay him, what should you do? Pretty simple, you cut him. That brings up the next interesting question: If the Bills do cut him or decide he's not getting the $27.5M in '17 are they able to rework the deal to a number they think is fair, or does Tyrod get upset and want to be cut?

Corey Davis is a much better prospect than Mike Williams, and I like Mike Williams, which should tell you how I feel about Davis.

So true. I truly believe Russ is the one who hyped the hell out of Rex and helped sway the Pegulas from Hue Jackson to Rex. It was reported that Hue thought the job was his and that he was probably the Bills guy if they hadn't gone for Rex. That's all in the past though. Like you said.....the Pegulas need smarter people in the room with them the next time around. Not guys like Russ Brandon who have done nothing but oversee a dysfunctional losing product for almost 2 straight decades. They need to find people that understand the following: 1- This entire league is about the QB. If you don't have a really good one, you're no where. 2- Running and playing defense, while good is not nearly as important to sustaining success as this current staff would have you believe. 3- Aggressive playcalling, aggressive situational football, going for it on 4th and short can help win you a game or 2 a year if you play the %'s properly which can very likely be the difference between playoffs and no playoffs. Jack Del Rio, to my surprise, has actually been one of those coaches. When he was first hired, my first impression was he's an old defensive retread, but I was dead wrong. I think him coming out throwing with 30 seconds left in the 1st half showed you a lot about him. That's a coach I want to have. I actually think Oakland has done a masterful job building their team. They have found a good QB who can sling it with accuracy and anticpation. They've made wise investments, both with money and draft picks in the WR postion, which I view as the 2nd most important position to QB. They have a crappy D, but as any smart follower of football knows....defense is highly variable year to year. A really good D can be pretty bad next year, and a pretty bad D like Oakland could be pretty good next year. Offense, on the other hand, does not work like that at all, and is quite predictable year to year because it's so QB dependent. And when it comes to the Raiders it appears they have found a QB they can depend on and that likely means you will be able to depend on the Raiders being a pretty good team moving forward. The Bills on the other hand are a train wreck at this point. They have a bad QB, average to below average WR's, a bad HC who brags about leading the league in rushing and makes excuses about being last in passing.......and an organization as a whole that seems to be fooled into believing that everything I just listed actually isn't the case, and that they'll be okay if the just "stay the course". Good luck with that Bills. Winners win, and losers lose......and as long as this ORGANIZATION has a losing philosophy and hires people that disregard reality and what it takes to win, then we will continue to be the losers we've been for nearly 2 straight decades.

Spot on assessment. Problem is.....we have a coach and GM that disagree with your assessment. They believe you can sustain success with a run and stop the run model. And they are fools in their thinking. They will probably get another year to prove they are wrong and we are right, unfortunately, for Bills fans.