TravelingDad48

I think Brady's rating of 68 in the 4th quarterkind of covers it .... The guys on the practice squad have rings also ... your point???

That is teh abritrators ruling . and carries no weight at all .. comish still decides what happens ... So its totaly meaningless !

This was not intended as a shot at Brady ... but I feel that Drew has never been as bad as people say ... he is what he is .. and I would take his arm strengh over Brady any day .... Neither can run ... both are similar in style ... Drew is a product of his schooling .. a drop back passer ... and he is having a average year for his career ... which is true for about 60% of the people in any occupation .. rather him than a raw rookie !!! Besides .. Brady is a TAD overrated ... winning and losing has a lot more to do about the team .. than the QB .. as long as he is not killing you ...

I was wondering how Drew had played over his career .. and how Brady has done. Some stats Drew - 11 years - not going to count the 2 games he played the year he was hurt has a 76.7 career rating ... at 76.9 this year Completion percent of 57% for his career, 56.4% this year 232 yards per game in his career, 183 this year 6.6 yards per attempt .. this year and for his career in 170 games he has 398 sacks and 90 fumbles, 42 that he lost Both are right on his career averages. So Drew is doing just about average for him ... no more , no less ... Where does he do well ? When a tied game ... has a rating of 90. When passing wide left or right ... over 84 rating. Yahoo lists the type of game, number of games and his rating: In Win 8 89.1 One-Sided 11 73.5 Not Close 9 71.3 In Loss 6 60.5 Close 5 87.4 Late&Close 7 96.3 I guess in late, close games he plays well .. just what you would want ... looks like when they are losing badly he paly be trying to hard?? Brady Career 86 rating ... and at 90 this year .. 10 points above Drew. In the first 3 quarters of a game he has a rating of 80, 100, 100 and in the 4th quarter his rating is 68 In Win 12 95.5 One-Sided 11 89.7 Not Close 10 86.4 In Loss 2 65.9 Close 4 99.6 Late&Close 8 65.2 Interesting how badly he is at late and close. Comments???

The AFC and NFC squads are made up of the consensus votes of fans, players and coaches. Each groups vote counts one-third toward determining the 43-man rosters. Wonder how that works ... leading guy from each is different lets say ... who picks the winner????? Strange system ! Maybe you get some points for how you finish ... and then they combine the polls ... almost like a all-star vote

I think so .... but with no running attack ... means more passing ... and SF has a ok pass defense ... will be a battle

Voting so far ... on www.nfl.com NFL ALL-STAR TOP-10 OFFENSIVE & DEFENSIVE VOTE-GETTERS TOP-TEN OFFENSIVE TOP-TEN DEFENSIVE Pos. Name, Team Votes Pos. Name, Team Votes QB Peyton Manning, Colts 1,075,089 DE John Abraham, Jets 368,514 QB Donovan McNabb, Eagles 993,530 ILB Ray Lewis, Ravens 281,341 QB Daunte Culpepper, Vikings 902,877 OLB Derrick Brooks, Buccaneers 272,842 WR Terrell Owens, Eagles 900,220 ILB Brian Urlacher, Bears 272,159 RB Shaun Alexander, Seahawks 804,172 CB Champ Bailey, Broncos 263,863 RB Tiki Barber, Giants 792,163 ILB Nick Barnett, Packers 237,079 WR Marvin Harrison, Colts 722,477 SS Ed Reed, Ravens 219,067 TE Antonio Gates, Chargers 705,751 DE Patrick Kerney, Falcons 203,484 TE Tony Gonzalez, Chiefs 703,124 DE Jevon Kearse, Eagles 197,310 QB Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers 690,306 DE Dwight Freeney, Colts 195,572 NFL ALL-STAR TOP-FIVE ROOKIE VOTE-GETTERS Pos. Name, Team Votes QB Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers 690,306 WR Roy Williams, Lions 158,967 FB Chris Cooley, Redskins 150,600 CB Dunta Robinson, Texans 122,177 RB/KR B.J. Sams, Ravens 86,068 AFC LEADING VOTE-GETTERS BY POSITION Pos. Name, Team Votes Pos. Name, Team Votes QB Peyton Manning, Colts 1,075,089 DE John Abraham, Jets 368,514 RB Curtis Martin, Jets 587,444 IL Marcus Stroud, Jaguars 182,436 FB Jerald Sowell, Jets 332,742 OLB Keith Bulluck, Titans 191,749 WR Marvin Harrison, Colts 722,477 ILB Ray Lewis, Ravens 281,341 TE Antonio Gates, Chargers 705,751 CB Champ Bailey, Broncos 263,863 T Jonathan Ogden, Ravens 190,876 SS Ed Reed, Ravens 219,067 G Alan Faneca, Steelers 238,993 FS John Lynch, Broncos 119,680 C Kevin Mawae, Jets 206,565 P Shane Lechler, Raiders 251,192 K Adam Vinatieri, Patriots 512,102 ST Larry Izzo, Patriots 115,837 KR Terrence McGee, Bills 163,857 NFC LEADING VOTE-GETTERS BY POSITION Pos. Name, Team Votes Pos. Name, Team Votes QB Donovan McNabb, Eagles 993,530 DE Patrick Kerney, Falcons 203,484 RB Shaun Alexander, Seahawks 804,172 IL Kevin Williams, Minnesota 185,509 FB William Henderson, Packers 221,421 OLB Derrick Brooks, Buccaneers 272,842 WR Terrell Owens, Eagles 900,220 ILB Brian Urlacher, Bears 272,159 TE Alge Crumpler, Falcons 573,769 CB Lito Sheppard, Eagles 186,029 T Orlando Pace, Rams 164,254 SS Michael Lewis, Eagles 101,947 G Larry Allen, Cowboys 198,026 FS Brian Dawkins, Eagles 176,798 C Hank Fraley, Eagles 157,320 P Mitch Berger, Saints 214,896 K David Akers, Eagles 680,644 ST Robert Ferguson, Packers 112,932 KR Eddie Drummond, Lions 315,936

Thoughts?

Me too ! Loved them ... just make sure the dog doesn't eat them ... ours did ... not good for the dog !

Spikes will be .. but he is 3rd leading tackler on the Bills - Fletcher leads by a lot and should be a All-pro ... Fletcher 91 solo / 36 assisted 127 total plus 3.5 sacks, he is 3rd in the league, 7 behind Ray Lewis McGee 74 solo / 7 assisted 81 total, 3 INTs, 26.6 return average and 3 TD's Spikes 61 solo / 25 assisted 86 total, 4INT's, 2 for TD's Could see either Adams or Williams as a reserve ... deserve better Moorman is 3rd in average ... and similar numbers to the others .. other 3 play in Oakland (nice weather) , Indy (dome) and Tennesse (little better weather). Don't see anyone from the offense making it.

hey - there is only about 6 GOOD teams in the league .. the rest are about the same .. and a couple stink ... each of those teams has beaten some good teams .. and lost to some bad team ... same as everyone has this year (NEvsMiami) ... Its just a list !

Since Pittsburgh lost to Baltimore 30-13 (by 17) and Baltimore lost to 20-3 AND Cincinnati 27-26 (by 1) and Cincinnat lost to Buffalo 33 -17 (by 16) Does that make the Bills the best team in the league?? Would the Bills really win by 34?????

Wild card is easy .. we need one more win than teh 3 teams we are tied with .. otherwise we lose ... as simple as that .. we have to go 2-0 .. and they need to lose a game each ..

And his "hit" was no worse than the hit at the end of teh Brady interception ... except the guy popped right back up ... and no fine there ... not even a flag .. NFL is so full of it !

Since Pittsburgh lost to Baltimore 30-13 (by 17) and Baltimore lost to 20-3 AND Cincinnati 27-26 (by 1) and Cincinnat lost to Buffalo 33 -17 (by 16) Does that make the Bills the best team in the league?? Would the Bills really win by 34?????

Sf so far ... Sun 9/12 Atlanta L 19-21 against a good team. lost by 2 Sun 9/19 at New Orleans L 27-30 lost by 3 Sun 9/26 at Seattle L 0-34 team we beat also Sun 10/3 St. Louis L 14-24 team we beat also Sun 10/10 Arizona W 31-28 team we beat also Sun 10/17 at NY Jets L 14-22 close game lost by 8 Sun 10/31 at Chicago L 13-23 Sun 11/7 Seattle L 27-42 team we beat also Sun 11/14 Carolina L 27-37 Sun 11/21 at Tampa Bay L 3-35 Sun 11/28 Miami L 17-24 team we beat also Sun 12/5 at St. Louis L 6-16 team we beat also Sun 12/12 at Arizona W 31-28 team we beat also Sat 12/18 Washington L 16-26 good D and played them tight I think its closer than people say ....and a west coast game also ... and a game we "should" win .. we all know how those can go !! Except for a blowout at Seattle twice and one against TB they have been within 10 or less the whole time ... and beat Arizona twice Bills 24 SF 10 Because we need it more !

I was suprised on some of the scores ... just goes to show that given the right matchups, someone being hurt, someone being hot, at home or away ... anyone can beat anyone ... Bet if you looked at who has beaten Pittsburgh .. you could follow it down to Sf being better !!! LOL .. and we know THAT not true !

DUDE, I am 49 ... actually saw Blue Oster Cult back in 1972 here in Rochester on New Years eve ..... And its still just your typical way to long SNL skit .... You want funny? Get a copy of theSNL skit about Harry Potter - With LL ! Now THAT funny !

This must be funny to the 20 year olds ... other than that ... would stupid qualify? "I want some more ..... Bills posts !!"

Someone posted the fact the Bills have beat some "poor" teams and how had others done against the same teams .. so looking at the AFC east In the AFC east - the Bills, Jets and Pats are each 3-0 against the NFC - Miami is 2-2 .. so thats 11-2 ... not to bad ! NE Thu 9/9 Indianapolis W 27-24 Sun 9/19 at Arizona W 23-12 Sun 10/3 at Buffalo W 31-17 Sun 10/10 Miami W 24-10 Sun 10/17 Seattle W 30-20 Sun 10/24 NY Jets W 13-7 Sun 10/31 at Pittsburgh L 20-34 Sun 11/7 at St. Louis W 40-22 Sun 11/14 Buffalo W 29-6 Mon 11/22 at Kansas City W 27-19 Sun 11/28 Baltimore W 24-3 Sun 12/5 at Cleveland W 42-15 Sun 12/12 Cincinnati W 35-28 Mon 12/20 at Miami L 28-29 Jets Sun 9/12 Cincinnati W 31-24 Sun 9/19 at San Diego W 34-28 Sun 10/3 at Miami W 17-9 Sun 10/10 Buffalo W 16-14 Sun 10/17 San Francisco W 22-14 Sun 10/24 at New England L 7-13 Mon 11/1 Miami W 41-14 Sun 11/7 at Buffalo L 17-22 Sun 11/14 Baltimore L 17-20 Sun 11/21 at Cleveland W 10-7 Sun 11/28 at Arizona W 13-3 Sun 12/5 Houston W 29-7 Sun 12/12 at Pittsburgh L 6-17 Sun 12/19 Seattle W 37-14 Buffalo Sun 9/12 Jacksonville L 10-13 Sun 9/19 at Oakland L 10-13 Sun 10/3 New England L 17-31 Sun 10/10 at NY Jets L 14-16 Sun 10/17 Miami W 20-13 Sun 10/24 at Baltimore L 6-20 Sun 10/31 Arizona W 38-14 Sun 11/7 NY Jets W 22-17 Sun 11/14 at New England L 6-29 Sun 11/21 St. Louis W 37-17 Sun 11/28 at Seattle W 38-9 Sun 12/5 at Miami W 42-32 Sun 12/12 Cleveland W 37-7 Sun 12/19 at Cincinnati W 33-17 So teams in common - and their key games Baltimore Sun 9/12 at Cleveland L 3-20 Sun 9/19 Pittsburgh W 30-13 Sun 9/26 at Cincinnati W 23-9 Sun 10/24 Buffalo W 20-6 Sun 11/7 Cleveland W 27-13 Sun 11/14 at NY Jets W 20-17 Sun 11/28 at New England L 3-24 Sun 12/5 Cincinnati L 26-27 Buffalo beat Cleveland and Cincinnati - while Baltimore lost to both ... they both beat the Jets .. and both lost to NE badly ... Arizona Sun 9/19 New England L 12-23 Sun 10/24 Seattle W 25-17 Sun 10/31 at Buffalo L 14-38 Sun 11/7 at Miami W 24-23 Sun 11/28 NY Jets L 3-13 Sun 12/19 St. Louis W 31-7 Everyone beats Arizona ... and the ones they beat so did Buffalo St. Louis Sun 9/12 Arizona W 17-10 Sun 10/3 at San Francisco W 24-14 Sun 10/10 at Seattle W 33-27 Sun 10/24 at Miami L 14-31 Sun 11/7 New England L 22-40 Sun 11/14 Seattle W 23-12 Sun 11/21 at Buffalo L 17-37 Sun 12/5 San Francisco W 16-6 Buffalo beat them as badly as NE and Miami did ...and Jets close with them Pittsburgh Sun 9/26 at Miami W 13-3 Sun 10/3 Cincinnati W 28-17 Sun 10/10 Cleveland W 34-23 Sun 10/31 New England W 34-20 Sun 11/7 Philadelphia W 27-3 Sun 11/14 at Cleveland W 24-10 Sun 11/21 at Cincinnati W 19-14 Sun 12/5 at Jacksonville W 17-16 Sun 12/12 NY Jets W 17-6 Pittsburgh beat Jacksonville by 1, cincinnati by 4, cleveland by 11, Miami by 10 ... nothing great about any of that ... in fact except for Philly by 24 ... most are really close games Seattle Sun 9/26 San Francisco W 34-0 Sun 10/10 St. Louis L 27-33 Sun 10/17 at New England L 20-30 Sun 10/24 at Arizona L 17-25 Sun 11/7 at San Francisco W 42-27 Sun 11/14 at St. Louis L 12-23 Sun 11/21 Miami W 24-17 Sun 11/28 Buffalo L 9-38 Sun 12/19 at NY Jets L 14-37 Seattle was beat by NY, Buffalo and NE by about the same .. and was beat by Seattle and Arizona .. teams Buffalo beat So what I see is that Buffalo has done as well or better than other AFC east teams against the same opponents ... and with just the stupid play in the first game and the refs at Oakland .. would be 10-4 - and everyone would be thrilled ! Comments?????

Bills' McGahee having tests on injured knee NFL.com wire reports ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (Dec. 20, 2004) -- Running back Willis McGahee was having tests on his injured right knee Dec. 20 and could miss Buffalo's next game at San Francisco. "We're optimistic," McGahee's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told The Associated Press. "I don't think it's anything serious. We're not that concerned about it. I don't know how it will impact him for next week, but it's nothing to be overly alarmed about." The Bills declined comment, saying any update will come from coach Mike Mularkey later in the day. The Bills have described the injury as a hyperextension. McGhaee was hurt when he stumbled and landed awkwardly while catching a swing pass in the second quarter of Buffalo's 33-17 win at Cincinnati on Dec. 19. He returned for the start of the third quarter, getting five carries before sitting out the fourth quarter. The good news is the injury is not to McGahee's left knee, the one he tore up in his final college outing for Miami in the Hurricanes' loss to Ohio State in the 2003 national championship game. That injury forced the first-round pick to miss his entire rookie season last year. McGahee has played a pivotal role in the Bills' resurgence this season, helping them overcome an 0-4 start to climb back into AFC playoff contention. Buffalo (8-6) is 8-1 in games McGahee has started and won all six in which he's rushed for 100 yards. The Bills' offensive backfield is already without backup Travis Henry, the former starter who's missed four games with a broken bone in his right leg. While the Bills have not provided a timetable for Henry's return, he's yet to practice since he was hurt in Buffalo's 38-9 win at Seattle. Rookie free agent Shaud Williams is next on the depth chart, followed by third-year veteran Joe Burns, who's considered more of a blocking back. Williams had 11 carries for 30 yards filling in for McGahee against the Bengals.

Am home ... and not at work !!! Big difference .. Thanks

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Someone said that these 3 teams are getting it done in all 3 phases like the Bills have been: Buffalo 38TD's 10run 19pass 2punt rt 3KO rt 3INT 0fum 1b punt 0b fg 37pat 21fg 1safety 0 2pt 38 total TD's - Special teams 6, defense 3, offense 27 Pats 40TD's 13run 22pass 0punt rt 1ko rt 1int 3fum 0b punt 0b fg 39pat 28fg 0safety 1 2pt 40 total TD's - special teams 1, defense 4, offense 35 Steelers 37TD's 16run 17pass 0punt rt 0ko rt 3int 1fum 0b punt 0b fg 36pat 21fg 1safety 0 2pt 37 total TD's - special teams 0, defense 4, offense 33 Eagles 42TD's 10run 30pass 0punt rt 0ko rt 2int 0fum 0b punt 0b fg 39pat 26fg 0safety 0 2pt 43 total TD's - special teams 0, defense 2, offense 41 So these teams have not done it as well as the Bills on special teams but the same on defense Team that is the closest to the Bills is Baltimore Ravens 29TD's 9run 12pass 2punt rt 0ko rt 4int 2fum 0b punt 0b fg 26pat 26fg 0safety 1 2pt 29 total TD's - special teams 2, defense 6, offense 21