PearlHowardman

Three weeks since the election and Obama moved from the left to the center and now to the right. Retaining Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense? This is inexcusable and indefensible. So much for "change we can believe in". What's next? Is Obama going to retain Dick Cheney?

I think the CBS6 channel in Albany is part of the Jets network. Still, how in the heck could any upstate NY station show the Vikings-Jaguars game over Buffalo? I can't understand how they even wanted that game shown.

The FOX station in Syracuse always shows NFC games. Even though SF is in the NFC no one in the 'Cuse cares about SF. The CBS station is part of some Bills broadcast organization and will ALWAYS show the Bills playing. Still, I honestly think that if enough Bills fans here in Syracuse complain they would change it to Buffalo-SF. If Buffalo had the record that the Giants have then we would be watching the Bills, even though they're in the AFC. There's way too many Bills fans here in Syracuse to ignore.

We won BIG today - but it's probably way too late for us. The NJ Jets, NE Pats, and Miami Fish all look VERY good!!

...meaning another up-and-down season next year but no playoffs.

Like I said two weeks ago: The Buffalo Bills win finish strong, but not make the playoffs, get our hopes up for the off-season, and come back next season and do the exact same thing!!

Moveon.org, et al, are not Fox-watching morons.

Anyone know?

I figured this thread would have the most posters in it.

At some point a Republican would have to. So far, too many Hawks and Conservative economic people around Barack Obama to qualify as "change".

Less than three weeks since he won the election and he sounds more like a Conservative with each passing day. How soon before people mistake Obama for a Republican?

Will the Buffalo Bills ever play a pre-season game at the Carrier Dome here in Syracuse? If anyone knows could you please let me know. I have e-mailed the Bills and the Carrier Dome but I never get a clear answer. Otherwise, enjoy today's game...if we win.

Syracuse University football BEAT Notre Dame yesterday, too!!!!!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/22/us...er=rss&emc=rss Obama Tilts to Center, Inviting a Clash of Ideas By DAVID E. SANGER Published: November 21, 2008 WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination with the enthusiastic support of the left wing of his party, fueled by his vehement opposition to the decision to invade Iraq and by one of the most liberal voting records in the Senate. Now, his reported selections for two of the major positions in his cabinet — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton as secretary of state and Timothy F. Geithner as secretary of the Treasury — suggest that Mr. Obama is planning to govern from the center-right of his party, surrounding himself with pragmatists rather than ideologues. The choices are as revealing of the new president as they are of his appointees — and suggest that, from its first days, an Obama White House will brim with big personalities and far more spirited debate than occurred among the largely like-minded advisers who populated President Bush’s first term. But the names racing through the ether in Washington about the choices to follow also suggest that Mr. Obama continues to place a premium on deep experience. He is widely reported to be considering asking Mr. Bush’s defense secretary, Robert M. Gates, to stay on for a year; and he is thinking about Gen. James L. Jones, the former NATO commander and Marine Corps commandant, for national security adviser, and placing Lawrence H. Summers, the former Treasury secretary whom Mr. Obama considered putting back in his old post, inside the White House as a senior economic adviser. “This is the violin model: Hold power with the left hand, and play the music with your right,” David J. Rothkopf, a former Clinton official who wrote a history of the National Security Council, said on Friday, as news of Mrs. Clinton’s and Mr. Geithner’s appointments leaked. “It’s teaching us something about Obama: while he wants to bring new ideas to the game, he is working from the center space of American foreign policy.” The reason, several of Mr. Obama’s transition team members say, is that they believe that the new administration will have no time for a learning curve. With the country facing a deep recession or worse, global market turmoil, chaos in Pakistan and a worsening war in Afghanistan, “there’s going to be no time for experimentation,” a member of the Obama foreign policy team said. That explains Mr. Obama’s first selection: Rahm Emanuel, another centrist Democrat and former member of the Clinton White House, as his chief of staff. In some ways, the choices made so far are reminiscent of the way the last senator to be elected president, John F. Kennedy, chose a cabinet. As president-elect, Kennedy soon picked three top officials significantly more conservative than he was: Dean Rusk as secretary of state, Robert S. McNamara as secretary of defense and C. Douglas Dillon, a Republican, as secretary of the Treasury. They helped him navigate the Cuban missile crisis, but also got him bogged down in Vietnam. Of all the choices Mr. Obama has made so far, it is the selection of Mrs. Clinton that appears the biggest gamble, in part because she has never had to engage in the give-and-take of high-stakes diplomacy, and in part because no one really knows how she will mesh with the Obama White House. In her discussion with the president-elect, several members of his transition team said, Mrs. Clinton expressed no doubt that she could be a loyal member of the Obama team — though she was reportedly deeply conflicted about giving up her Senate seat and the independent power base it afforded her. During the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination, Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton went out of their way to point out their foreign policy differences, with Mrs. Clinton portraying herself as a hawkish Democrat and defending her decision to vote in favor of the 2002 resolution that Mr. Bush later considered an authorization to use military force against Saddam Hussein. (Later, she said she fully expected Mr. Bush to use diplomacy first — and was shocked that he did not.) Now the question is less one of ideological differences than whether a Clinton State Department could become something like Colin L. Powell’s: an alternative, though weak, power center that made little secret of its differences with the White House. “Anyone who tells you they really know how this is going to work out,” one senior transition official said Thursday, “is telling less than the truth.” If Mrs. Clinton is taken from the “Team of Rivals” model, Mr. Geithner, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, is from the Team of Neutrals. “He’s no liberal,” said a former colleague at the Treasury Department, where he managed the American response to the Asian financial crisis in the 1990s. At the time Mr. Geithner developed a reputation as the ultimate pragmatist, putting together a package of more than $100 billion in aid to halt the financial contagion. That turned out to be a training session for his role, a decade later, in the bailouts of Bear Stearns, A.I.G. and the injection of nearly $350 billion in Congressionally authorized money, whose exact use has become something of a political football. Mr. Geithner grew up in Asia — in Tokyo, New Delhi and Bangkok — and keeps his ego well in check. He asks a lot of questions, but does not have Mr. Summers’s overwhelming — some say overbearing — personality. “He clicked with Obama,” one outside adviser said. “If you think about it, their sort of cool, distant styles are alike.”

Pity none of us can come up with someone from WNY or CNY as a suitable replacement.

Timothy Geithner, president of the New York Federal Reserve, has been nominated by Obama to be his treasury secretary. "If nominated and confirmed by the Senate, Geithner, 47, would assume chief responsibility for tackling an economic slowdown and credit crunch that threaten to create the deepest recession in more than a generation. In his current post in New York, he has played a key role in the government's response to the financial crisis and has worked closely with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve. "As a Treasury Department official during the Clinton administration, Geithner (pronounced GITE-ner) dealt with international financial crises and played a major part in negotiating assistance packages for South Korea and Brazil. "Lawrence Summers, a former treasury secretary and one-time Harvard University president, was being considered as an economic adviser. Economic posts also seemed likely for Obama's top two economic advisers during his campaign, Austan Goolsbee and Jason Furman." I don't think these guys are liberals! Conservatives?

It's gotta be someone from CNY or WNY! PLEASE!!!!

Kind of what I was thinking. But I may have spoken a day too soon regarding Obama governing from the center.

If I'm a conservative Republican and my newly elected member of congress is a conservative Democrat should I really be upset? Listening to conservative Democrats they sound like Republicans to me. Especially the conservative Democrats from the South, Mid-West, and West. I saw the map of USA counties - which ones were red and which ones were blue for the 2008 Presidential election. I realized that they might all be a conservative purple color, not red and blue. And if Obama governs from the Center, who really lost in the 2008 Presidential election? Liberals?

The Bottom Line: Ralph Wilson will not pay enough to get a good HC - never. We will always have a mediocre football with RW as owner. Period!

Just watch! The Bills will win out the remainder of the season but not make the playoffs. We will all be excited during the off-season for next year. Next year will roll around and we'll experience the same thing as this year. -Nobody Circles The Drain Like The Buffalo Bills-

I knew we were in trouble last night when I witnessed THOUSANDS of Bills fans waving the white surrender flags!

Has anyone else here noticed that THOUSANDS of Buffalo Bills fans at last night's game were waving white (surrender) towels? When did they start doing this? Why don't they stop?

-Nobody Circles The Drain Like The Buffalo Bills-

P.S. You're in CA. Try being here in Buffalo, Rochester, or where I am in Syracuse. Very depressed Bills fans all over the place.