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Butler (while a little better than Whittle) ain't the answer either. We need a center AND a new RG.

I'm happy we have both Mitchell and Poz but neither one belong on a "who is the best player on the Bills" poll. Neither have great speed an Poz actually isn't very good at all at shedding blocks. I know LB's "shouldn't have to" but it's gonna happen every now and then no matter what. If we had a LBer with great speed and pass rush ability to go along with Mitch and Poz we'd have a great group. As of now they are average. But, yeah Bill, Poz is only in his 2nd year so he will get better, but I wouldn't say Pro Bowl caliber, but a guy who is great to have on your team though.

Consider yourself fooled.

Agree with Sage on Stroud. He's needs another guy next to him besides Williams though and we probably need TWO more DE's. Jenkins was regarded hands down the best DT in the game before his knees started blowing out and now healthy again I'd say he's now the best nose tackle in the NFL. GD Jets

Bowen was not drafted with the hopes of him EVER starting. Let's clear that up right now. Mitchell and Posluszny have only average speed for todays game as well. The polish community has overrated him big time although I think he's a very solid player. I have no problems with either guy but a replacement for Ellison is a must. I'd take Crowell back if he wanted to but we'll probably need to get someone in free agency. Unfortunately, D line is a much bigger problem...........

Get used to it, they suck. Schobel won't make much difference either so don't anybody even go there.

You have shown class and I will treat you with the same. You said the Jets WR's are hurting well so are the Bills DB's......we'll see how things shake down today. Good luck.

I'm gonna have to say the Ashton Youboty is fragile tag is back. What is up with this guys fuggin foot? The secondary really takes a hit when he is out. The Bills need to attack and just let these guys play today.

Thought this was gonna be a Viagra promotional thread......... Just kiddin' oldies, I'm not very far behind!

How the hell we gonna trade up and still have a 2nd and 3rd round pick? Now, if we have a great free agency, I'm all for trading up for a potential "great" pass rusher.

Wrong Thoner7, Schobel had his best year playing at his current weight. Run defense is about technique and leverage anyways, not weight. Honestly, what really is the difference when your 245 or 265 going against a man weighing 330??? Schobel is just probably a little over the hill (but like I said with someone bad ass on the other side he would be fine for a few more years) and is paid as an elite player when he really is just a very solid player.

I said barring injury. Whittle practiced anyways.

That's true ans4e64 but the way to go would be keep Preston at center (barring injury) and keep him (re-sign) along with drafting another center and RG somewhere in rounds 1-4 after this season. Fowler could come back at vet minimun only!!

It would be a BIG plus for our running game, make no mistake.

I like Schobel and all, but we need some youth at DE this offseason. Schobels best days are behind him.....he'd be alright for a few more years IF we get him an effective rusher on the other side.

I was wondering the same thing and found that usually late Wednesday(today) buffalobills.com will have one out. By this evening check Chris Brown's blog, should be something by 6 o' clock or so.........

Um yeah, I was gonna wait till tonight, now my day has been put on slow mo. Thanks guys!!! Fellow drummer and music fan of this entire thread.

No more Utica Club for DanInUticaTampa. I'm not happy with the "smooth move" by Peters either but run as fast as you can into a wall please. Pass rush and Robert fricken Royal are just two to start with. Peters is not even on the problems list man.

What is Youboty's exact injury anyways? It's always kind of undisclosed with him.

Right you are BillsGM. It will come down to you or me as the next Bills GM...... I already figured that scenario in my 2nd post in this thread so you'll have to do better!!!! Just kiddin man!!!

I don't know if Ellis was supposed to be that stud DE but at least fill the Copland Bryan role. We may have to pay BIG bucks to a free agent DE or DT who has done it in this league to ensure we get immediate results.

Or Kesay remains a starter for another year or two and we draft someone like George Selvie as a pass rush specialist until he is more prepared for a 3 down role.

I don't think many are saying we don't need Schobel, just that it would be nice to have a real pass rusher on the other side. #1 offseason priority folks. Denny goes bye bye and Kelsay is a extremely well paid second wave guy. Tough titty.

Bills pass rush=RJ, with or without Schobel.

I agree, but people were making it out like we could play our worst game of the century and have nothing to worry about when facing the Fins. We gave that one away, but should have known it could (and did) happen.