I understand BillsVet that trading back up doesn't always work out, especially when you do it for a John McCargo instead of a Nick Mangold. Yeah, that's 3 wallbashes right there, but if that's what it takes to get a real center of the future or a real TE, I still think we may have to. I don't see a C or TE worth the 9th-13th pick, so we may have to. Waiting too long we could miss out on Alex Mack or a Dustin Keller type TE.