MadBuffaloDisease

Just a scant few months ago, people were lambasting Favre for NOT deciding to retire.

Justice is inactive while all-world OL like Nick Cole and Scott Young (who?! . Oh wait, Cole is an UDFA rookie and Young was a 2005 5th round pick) play. And why not say "let's see where Terrance Pennington, Aaron Merz, and Brad Butler end up in 1-2 years? As for Youboty, because of school exam schedules, injuries, and family problems, he's missed most of OTA's, training camp, and pre-season, while seasoned veteran DB's on the team haven't. Did Justice miss the same amount of time?

Despite the lack of passing stats in the past, there was no denying that the Falcons won more with Vick in the game than with Schaub, who had better passing stats.

Leinart today: 14 for 35 for 157 yards, with 1 TD and 1 INT. Now had the Bills drafted him, wouldn't we be panicking a bit by now, had he just come off a 12 for 32 game last weekend? And it's not like he played against great teams/defenses.

The Jags had a great defense the past 2 years, and Leftwich had Jimmy Smith to throw to, until he retired prior to this year (because he was going to get suspended for steroids). Fred Taylor has also been healthy the past 2+ years.

The deep ball has been disappointing for the Bills this year. Either JP throws a nice pass that's dropped, or he misses a wide open guy.

Him coming into replace Gus Frerotte last year was one of the reasons the Dolphins came back against the Bills and beat them.

Sure. Because teams make good OL players inactive.

What was the lowest paid attendance for the LA teams, and how little did people watch them on TV? Again as I said, the NFL isn't dumb and would realize things like attendance and TV ratings, yet they STILL push for a team, even if it means spending $1B on a new stadium. The question is why?

Uh, no Dawgg. You said Vick was a better passer. Until the last 2 weeks, that wasn't true. It only took him, what, 5+ years? Unfortunately JP doesn't have Vick's wheels and thus doesn't pose the same running threat.

JP has 11 of them (5 fumbles lost and 6 INT's). But again, how many drives have opponents started on the Bills' side of the field, much less the 30-yard line?

Some teams matchup well with others. They played the Bears well in pre-season, which is what Dennis Green mentioned in his post-loss rant.

I'm a Losman supporter, but Carr got benched today.

about the Bills-Bears game. The 49'ers are getting crushed 41-0 at the half. And Leinart is 6/15 for 61 yards and the Cards trail the Packers 21-7 at the half.

Couldn't tell you the specifics, but there MUST be a reason why the NFL wants a team in LA so badly, given the history of LA teams, and it probably mostly rests on TV money. And I think they build a 65K stadium and and at least draw 50K fans a game. While not ideal, it's not an empty stadium.

Again DeLuca and SL, the Bills made some moves on the O-line. See where that gets them first. Then the next step will be replacing Losman, with NALL, not Holcomb.

I don't think that LA doesn't want a team so much as they DON'T want to shell-out $600M-$1B in tax money to make an already-rich NFL owner richer. It's the same reason a new stadium in Buffalo will never happen, and why the team if probably destined to move eventually. BTW, anyone have an edumicated guess as to how much more money the NFL would see in yearly TV revenue with a team in LA? It HAS to be sizeable, considering they're willing to spend $600M-1B to get a team there.

Please. Holcomb may have started the KC game, but he was benched. And that game against the Jets was an embarrassment, although thankfully it DID improve the Bills' draft position. I've heard from more than a few fans who have attended games, not to mention announcers like Dan Dierdork and Randy Cross, who have SAID more than a few times that on an unsuccessful play, "there was nobody open." In the 2nd quarter, Villarrial was late getting to the blitzer and JP was sacked for a fumble. Despite several Bills having a chance at it, a Patriots player got it. Later-on JP killed a scoring (FG at best) change by throwing a pick, but the Pats were ahead by 14 thanks to the defense allowing a long TD drive and then giving up a dumb RTP penalty that probably could have stopped that drive with no points, rather than a TD. And all the while, Willis was averaging 3 YPC, Evans fails to haul-in a TD pass, and penalties kill them. Oh and not to mention, the Pats had 2 weeks to rest and prepare.

How many opponent's drive starts have started in Bills territory this year, much less at their own 30? How many TD drives has the defense given-up on drives longer than 50 yards/not after a turnover? And after failed 3rd downs and scores, the ST's is supposed to pin the opposing offense back. How many times has THAT happened this year, compared to the past 2 years?

Or maybe the Sabres aren't as good as we thought, i.e. the best team in the East, much less the NHL? Or maybe winning is more a product of luck when 2 good teams meet?

You mean like the 3-12 Jets at the end of last season? Please Scott, if you're going to say JP needs to be replaced, PLEASE do not suggest that it be with Holcomb. Holcomb won 3 games last year in 8 starts, which works out to 6 wins, which is 1 more than they ended-up with. Wow. I can't blame the receivers for dropping perfect passes, failing to get open, and messing-up their routes? I can't blame the offense for committing 23 PRE-SNAP penalties (of which I believe at best 3 were delay of games by JP), which leads the NFL? I can't blame the O-line or backs for failing to pickup blitzers that lead to sacks and fumbles? I can't blame the O-line for failing to allow Willis to pickup a yard on 3rd or 4th and 1? And tell me, WHAT does JP have to do with the defense and ST's, both of which have been bad this year?

If the Sabres were indeed "tight" because of the chance to break the record, that's a reasonable excuse. I guess we'll see now that the pressure's off.

What have either Holcomb or Nall done to make you or anyone ELSE think that they'll succeed? Like I said, Holcomb's time as a starter is done. Inserting him for MAYBE a win or two does nothing for the team in the big picture ("wow, we beat the Packers with Holcomb starting!"). As for Nall, again the fact that he isn't the 2nd-string QB tells me he's not even as good as Holcomb, let alone JP. Again, the Bills' problems are NOT mostly on JP, and there is enough blame to go around on offense that a knee-jerk replacement of him is NOT the answer. The Bills took some steps this past week by shuffling the O-line and getting the players in better positions for success, both current and future. We'll see where that takes us first. Then we'll see if the bye week helps everyone on offense, defense, and ST's, who have ALL sucked this year, helps them work out some of the kinks. Remember that this is the first year of a new regime and schemes on offense and defense (there's no excuse for how the ST's are playing, though) and it takes more than an off-season to correct the problems of the past. Thanks for saying that. So that means that a QB is responsible for AT BEST 33% of the team's performance.

The Bills aren't losing solely because of JP. The QB gets too much credit for wins and too much blame for losses. The fact is that offense is roughly 45% of the game, defense 45%, and ST's 10%. A QB therefore is only responsible for his 40%, if even considering there are other factors in his succes, like line blocking, WR's getting open, RB's picking up blitzers and rushing well, etc. And if you want to see Holcomb play, LMMFAO! That ship sailed LAST year. And Nall couldn't even convince the Packers to keep him, much less didn't show enough to beat-out JP and rise above 3rd on the depth chart.

Thanks for the view from Illinois. As d_i_b said, given the advantages the Sabres had, they probably would have lost bad to the Thrashers had the roles been reversed, and that's what's so disappointing.