Well, I don't feel superior to anyone, thanks for implying that. I am not worried that people make more than me, in a fortune 500 company that goes without saying. WHat irritates me, is the mentality of quotes like that of my sig line, taken from the earlier thread. The point, in case you missed it, is that soon the entire plant could get laid off, simply because of unrealistic demands. It costs too much to do business in VA, we can do it cheaper in NC. The nature of our business has changed, the mentality has not.