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MY NEW FALL-GUYS: LINDELL -- He will shank a few in the 4th quarter for the the loss... FAIRCHILD -- He will pass on 3rd and goal and have it picked off...

There have been hundreds who have better pedigree in college than others. But remember, Willis has a cadevors elbow ligament holding his knee together. His speed may NEVER come back to break into the second layer and secondary and he has show little skill to catch the ball. the NFL is now all about 2,000 yard backs who can catch 50 balls and paly 3 downs. WIllis is getting a rep as a pounder and in between the tackle runner. Rudi scoots around the edge and is a legit pro bowler. He doesn't have the prototypical body. NEither did Emmitt SMith...

HELL YA he is humble now. He sucked with Atlanta. From his injuries to his eye problem - he was a joke. He can't beat the double team, but alone or in space, and when he runs straight line, he is dangerous. He has egg on his face and he may swat that off with a good season as the 3rd down burner on the skinny post patterns he only runs well.

maybe you are right. but we will never know. what we do know, emperically (which makes it a fact) is that rudi had 12 tds last season and 1400 yards. i like willis, but no one considers him a GREAT player or pro bowler. the condsider him a pounder with no break away speed or 3rd down ability. Every one who palys for the Canes at RB onthe college film, with there nice dark green jerseys, etc looks AMAZING. Is Willis getting the down field blocking, is the OL good, is Losman able to keep the Def honest and keep the safety out a 8 man front? Dunno. My point is that GREAT player and real talents beat those odds. L.T. - the best RB since Emmitt Smith, beat those odds with a sad team for years now. He sees an 8 man front an punishes it. A great player stands out. Clemens, who I think is a great player stands out. He picks off passes and maked remarkable player for 4 quarters. That is one guy. Where are the others?

It looks doubtful all of these things can work out since they are so interdepent buy understanding the talents and the limitations they have I<HP leads to understandingthis football team. 734821[/snapback] Look, you have to be a realist when you watch the game and make conclusions that may not be warm and fuzzy and made with rose colored glasses -- that see "BILLS ARE GREAT - BILLS ARE GREAT!" When you watch us play NE or INDY or TAMPA or WASH OR DALLAS OR etc, we got shredded on both sides of the ball. Those finest teams have numerous of high pedigee blue chipers intermingled with layers of later round fiber and depth and solid play. For 10 years now, this Bills club has had inferior talent on the field -- at that is evident when you watch the game and we are never able to compete in the 4th quarter or compete if an injury AT ANY POSITION takes place. EXAMPLE: NE has two all pro TEs and countless def. lineman. To distinquish, just on NE and us, in this one example, we had Mark Campbell and Shoebel -- and an overpriced Sam Adams. Do you see the comparision? We aint even talking about Dillon, Ty Warren, Seymore, Harrison, Brady, etc. The above example uses NE, the best team around. But, when we look at an above average team, say Cincy, we see the same -- across the board -- difference. We look at Cincy's QB, RB, WRS, OL, DL, LB and corners. THey are better across the board than the Bills by a long shot. Levy recognizes this. He sees that by drafting juniorr underclassmen at value will make sense layer. We get 4 guys as junior insted of one senior who is an inpact guy. Supply and demand -- if you will. But you need some luck to have your late rounders fill in the depth area and roll player areas. Polian was great at that. ANd of course havin Bruce, Bennett, Kelly, Thurman, Richter, Wolford and Reed made that easy. The 06-07 bills are just thin and green in all ways. They mimic San Fran with questions at every spot, with the exception of corner and RB.

Hey, Rudi had twice as many td as willis, and 1400 yards. not bad. to compare his with travis henry is stupid. and lamont jordan is terrific. willis is great - dont get me wrong. but he aint an all pro. he is a 1100 yard rusher who comes out on 3rd down.

Opinions are like as$holes, everybody got em. Willis over Rudy? Its a democracy...

The post speaks for itself. The talent is thin. You want to talk about the spelling of a players name. Are you interested in football and the conversation of the talent or jsut trying to make your 10 or so friends on this board giggle at your attempts at humor all day? You got 23, 000 posts, are any of them of substance? Read the post, give some opinion on the talent. No enemys here, jsut a candid review of the field talent. Talk about that...it makes you look better.

They ought to jsut pay him the Huff like money. Why bicker over $1?!?!?! They need talent, adn Bowens is a career scrub. Cut Bowens and give the $ to donte....

Good post, well thougt out, etc. While you are right, there are some "good players" here, they stack up poorly against the top 10 teams in the league at almost every position. Across the board, this roster pals in compasion versus the Pats, Indy, TAmpa, Skins, Dallas, Philly, Seattle, Arizona, Pitt, Cincy, CArolina, and dare I say MIAMI!!! The rosters of those teams are rich in depth and blue chip talent. TD supplied nothing with is drafts. They were absolute FLOPS and busts with the exception of a few "good palyers" who are not game changers, which win NFL games these days...

Totally disagree. GREAT players stand out even on poor teams.... Texans: WR Andre Johnson; RB Dominik Davis Cincy: two years ago Cincy WR Chad Johnson; Arizona: Bolton, Fitzgerald Carolina: two years ago WR Mohamed I liken the Bills to San Fran. BOth teams have little talent or core value or depth. They are rebuilding. I believe in Marv, but as of now, this club has little to hang on too...

A poster below states that we have no QB to go "with ALL this talent." Who is "all this talent" we have? I think the Bills are in the BOTTOM 1/4 of the league in regards to PURE talent on their team. Look at their pro bowl appearances and failures to have stat leaders other than Brad Morman. I have more leftovers in my frig than are on the OL. Jason Peters was pumping gas in Shrevport three years ago. Evan is legit. But he no better than 19 or 20 of all the WRs in the league. Look at the top 20 WRs and tell me who you would want. QBs are bruttal. JP does not show the type of rookie moxie that a young Palmer or MAnning or Carr have. Blame it on his cast? Dunno... Holcom is a has been. NO better than Steve Grogan. McGahee was a super college back, on an amazing Canes team. He is a talent, but NO better than the top 10 pro bowl backs in the league. YOU want him over Rudy JOhnson? How does he compare to L.T.? He doesn't... DEFENSE: The DE line has Tripplet, shoebel, ANderson and Kelsey. All average undersized guys. LB are pretty much Fletcher who makes tons of jumping on the pile type tackles. He does not make the pro bowl B/K he makes not solo sstops or back field stops ala Ray LEwis, et al. Is he more effective if he had lineman to keep blockers oof him? Spikes is solid. A freak. But his ankle is Sam cowart 6 years ago. Vincent has been an injury prone kitty his entre career. WIth Maimi he was scared to make tackles and is hurt 70 % of the time. Clemens is solid -- a pro bowl type. The others are late picks who are roll players. MCgee is a great special teamer. MArv drafted all underclass men in an effort to steal talent adn pro bowl types for 3 yrs from now. McCargo will blossom in 3 years adn would have been a high first rounder had he stayed at NC State. Same for the others. DAnte will be rock solid and anchor to Def. But to say there is "all this talent" is a misstament. THis team under TD has some of the worst talent around at every position. Even poor teams have gusy who stand out and makes plays and display their talent and pro bowl ability. Look at at Arizona, Texans and Detroit.

pleaseeeeeeeeeeee... we got 4 or 5 guys like him now.

His first season, he created a staff and organization that was supposed to be innovative, fresh and the anti-Butler. The contract mess and cap issues were hard to negotiate. THe demons of the Tenn. "throw-back" haunted the club in many ways (we had that game won and Wade Phillips might have taken that club to the conf. finals with the way A. Smith was running behind that rugged line). He hired a GREAT defensive coach in Williams -- the coach of a S Bowl almost champ the season before. TD then started to build the team with young players and used his past experience as a scout to draft who he thought would be star and gems, ala as he did in Pitt, where he built some great teams with roll players and young over achievers. His first two drafts were average if not poor. THe guys just did not pan out for whatever reason. TD missed on the FA -- by signing, at first his old players and then guys that Williams wanted (i.e., Eddie Robinson). Everyone at 1 Bills Drive used the mantra "3 yrs." After dismal seasons and poor plays by bad players and bad drafts, the pressure was clearly on from Wilson to "make it happen." And what that meant was that TD was to excellerate the process and buy has been Milloys, Adams, Teague, etc and attempt to steal a playoff game. That plan failed when injuries crept up, Coach Williams showed to be a poor decision maker, the vets he brought were over-the-hill, his draft picks were flops and his support dwindled. IMO, teams are great for two reasons. Both of which the Bills have NOT since their playoff game in Tenn: 1) they have a qb who lead them. sure, Dilfer sucked with Baltimore, and the Redskins QBS who have been system QBS. But ever since Kelly has left, this club has been bruttal. OL free agent don't want to protect a 3rd round scrub or Alex Van Pelt back there. And a good Qb makes a poor OL look as good as a good OL makes a poor QB look good. But great QBs rise to occasion, and the scaring of missing on Rob Johnson scared Wilson tothe point where he passed up Leinart, Big Ben, etc, etc. 2) having good sound players at EVERY position. TD talentwise was bruttal. His players were injury prone, soft, slow, overpaid, & dumb on the field. He never saw added the layers of talent and depth and had that keen eye for wha the old regime of Polian, Fergusson, Adams, Smith and Butler called: "football sense." But the great teams who make it with average QBS have all of those things. JOe Gibbs has that talent. To see that a TE make a difference out there. That LB depth makes a difference. And etc. Marv will build up the talent pool. The guys he will draft will be all of the things TD never saw. They will be like the 06 draft -- guys who are tough and smart before anything else. He will find where the fiber is needed and give Jauron the tools to to smash the ball at an team for 4 quarters and paly well late in the 4th. He will find the little gems who will make those "big plays" that CArlton Bailey or Kelso or RAy BEntly or Metzelars could make. In addition, the guy knows talent and who can make dynamic big time all pro moves. He has a keen eye for knowing when a guy has balance, vison and game spreed and lockeroom presence (mark pike, tasker, etc) This team will make the playoffs in 2 seasons. There will be fight in the 06 club. No giving up, no sulking, and an honest effort. And leaders and all pro will come from this and FAs will flock to play here and make this a great football city again. The biggest problem with the team is something they can't control. And that is the fact that Miami is going to be TERRRIFIC and the pats are still talented.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ONLY A FRESHMANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN...

What about the XXX tape she made with Mike WIlliams?

What about Mike Williams? He was traded for last night. Jason Peters was dealt for Willaims and Chris Sims.

Holcolm was traded to the Dallas Stars for Bill Guerin last night. Geurin played QB at St. Marks high school in Detroit and will backup Losman. Holcolm will play left wing on the team coached by Mike Williams (Tampa Linebacker) and Mike Willams (Detroit WR).

Bills | Trade Jason Peters for Mike Williams and a 6th round pick in 2011. Thurs, 4 May 2006 011:06:42 -0700 Larry Felser, out of retirement, and for the Buffalo News, reports the Buffalo Bills have traded with the Miami Dolphins for tackle Mike Williams, sending tackle Jason Peters in exchange. Williams, the Bills former 1st rounder in 2001, was released and signed by the Tampa Bay Tigers -- of the Indoor Soccer Federation, to play goalie for the injured Lius Gonzalez. He was later cut by the Tigers and picked up as a free agent by the Dolphins. G.M. Marv Levy commented at the press conference, "in getting Williams, we have foundation to build on for years to come." The Tampa Bucs were also rumored to have been interested in trading for Peters.

Bills traded for Detroit WR Mike Williams last night. He arrived in Buffalo at 7:30 pm. Coy Wire and three used footballs were part of the deal. Mike Williams, a local cab driver arranged for Mike Williams - the WR- to be taken to local hotel for chicken wings and genny cream ale and a metting with Ralph Wilson and Levy. Meeting lasted 15 minutes and Wilson and Levy had to go to bed at 8:00 pm.

I want to cry. Your speach reminded me of the Gettysburg Address. No really, they have to stay healthy and get good play from the new guys and Losman. Miami and NE are the strong teams yet, so we will compete in 3 years.

No big deal hitting a guy in the family jewels while in the trenches IMO. live by the sword - die by the sword.

I thought Arizona would trade Detroit for Mike Williams - to have Leinart and Williams USC days reunited... Mike Williams is awesome -- especially on the fade route...

lets me interupt the love affair you and philly tool are having. our OSU guys have been great. this is a rose bowl caliber team and players playing in cold weather to mid west blue collar fans. no more hot weather contract hungry players from florida schools and their own "pro days" and attitudes. champs last season were pitt, look at their QB, RB, LBS, CBs, Safetys, coach. all smash mouthers, like the pats before them. hey, marv will build with fiber and character. winning season they will bring...