Crap Throwing Monkey

Christ. We just HAD this argument. Do you people ever read? http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=425685

The day before New Orleans went all to sh--? Face it, the guy is just not prescient.

I was actually kind of hoping you had a better idea, to be perfectly honest.

Which, by the way, I believe is more medical assistance teams than were sent after the fact to the areas hit by all four major hurricanes last year. The preparation for this, in many ways, is greater than the response to last year's storms.

No sh--, buckwheat. I linked to stories that demonstrated preparations by government agencies at state and federal levels throughout the region. Just because they list the Red Cross or christian charities doesn't mean I thought those were government.

Given the magnitude of the situation in hindsight. And did you notice that some of the articles I included written the day of the storm said New Orleans dodged the worst of it? But they were supposed to know it was going to be this bad, even though in hindsight they didn't think it was anyway?

You don't. NO is shattered. You can't get aid to the people, you have to get the people to the aid. Therein lies the problem: 1) it's bass-ackwards to how aid usually works, so no one's really prepared for it. "There's no precedent" is probably an exaggeration...but there's damned little, for sure. I doubt there's any real institutionalized experience at it. And 2) the people who need the aid are interfering with any attempts at distribution or evacuation in an orderly fashion. Can't blame them, really...but that's what's happening now.

Hell with them. The city needs to be evacuated completely, people are dying because it's not being evacuated, it's not being evacuated because crowd control is impossible and armed gangs are interfering...shoot anyone who's armed. Hell, suspend posse comitatus for the next ten days and shoot anyone who's armed. If someone's defending their property...bad luck, but if they had the good sense to evacuate like everyone should be required to do, they wouldn't get shot. I'm not saying it's a pleasant decision...but it's not a pleasant situation. A lot of people are going to die if they don't get out, and people are hindering that. You can either ask "pretty please with sugar" and watch 50k people rot to death in a swamp, or you can do what's required to save as many as you can. New Orleans, right now, at this moment, is dead. Period. It's a pure, bare-bones survival situation, and survival is a nasty process. I don't particularly LIKE the idea of shooting everyone who gets in the way...don't like it at all, frankly. But I can live with it a hell of a lot easier than the alternative.

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=3774633&nav=0RY4dpvR http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/c..._csm/akatrina_1 "And FEMA, the federal disaster-response agency, moved its search-and-rescue teams - as well as stockpiles of ice, water, and food - as close as safety would permit." http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.d...EWS01/508280312 http://www.gadsdentimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/.../508290329/1011 http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/490972...ss=okl&psp=news http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=79244

In other words, you didn't hear it so it didn't happen. Just started following the story yesterday?

Let the money/jewelry go too. Shoot anyone with a gun. Those are the people disrupting the relief efforts. That may be what it has to come down to.

Uhhh...maybe they don't have the water available? Same with this looney airdrop idea...you can't deliver what you don't have available. And I know the next question would be "Why weren't they prepared with stocks of water?" Because no one stocks much of anything anymore...and even if they did, it'd probably be in a warehouse in Oregon and take just as long to get to NO as it would to order it from a regional bottler.

I'm not talking about police or fire in Baton Rouge, either. FEMA was putting people in place inland of the coast to respond to the storm. Hell, they had people in New Orleans during the storm to get real-time feedback on conditions.

No. Just the ones that would obviously cause disasters with the application of hindsight.

Have a better idea? Relief efforts are being hindered because people are getting violent because relief efforts are being hindered... It pains me greatly to say it...but it's probably going to have to come down to gunfire to restore the situation to anything close to manageable.

Am I the only one that heard the reports of rescue and assistance teams being assembled in Baton Rouge on Saturday and Sunday?

Can the President do ANYTHING as a private citizen? My impression was always that whoever holds the office can't so much as cut a check to the Red Cross, but has to staff it out...

Nice. "No one's doing anything about this corpse...hey, photo op!"

Because that's what a chaotic situation needs. More randomness. Jesus Christ, you're an idiot.

Not being able to take your nail clippers on an airplane, apparently.

You in NYC or DC? How'd 9/11 impact you? Have to take your shoes off at the airport now, while bitching about the PATRIOT Act? I've got friends in New Orleans, !@#$. Just sent one of them ALL my spare cash so she could buy clothes, since she lost everything. Even beyond that...who do you think bears the cost of recovery and rebuilding? Of housing half a million people for six months or more? Probably a hundred thousand people out of work? The major Gulf port shut down for the rest of the year? What do you think the disruption in grain shipments is going to do to food prices? What do you think the cost to all the companies HQ'd in New Orleans is going to do to their share value in your retirement funds? Sure..."it doesn't affect me". That's why we're talking about gas rationing throughout the southeast.

I should have caught that. My bad.

New Orleans has always been in a constant struggle with flooding. Short of technology to jack the bedrock up above sea level...no, because when you build below sea level surrounded by water, you will eventually get a flood.

No, it's not. It's only a local event. Half a million refugees and a shattered city has no impact on my life. Now excuse me while I B word about gas prices in another thread...

What the !@#$? A country can have embassies, international recognition...but wait, no olympic team. Sorry, you're not REALLY a country? What the hell is wrong with you?