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I suppose TN could use him, but they probably won't pass on a QB. Of course Houston can, but if they don't trade down I can't see them passing on MW. If the top 3 goes as I predict, NYJ does not pass on Bush to take Ferguson IMO. After that, the next team that really needs him is Buffalo. If he really isn't "all that" then this scenario is highly possible. The problem we all have in doing this sort of thing is that we are not professional talent evaluators. We pretend to make predictions on other people's rankings, and none of these guys are pros either. The key is to pay attention to the NFL Draft stock market. There is much precedence for taking 'rumblings' into account.

No link, but the rumblings have already started that Houston may pass on Bush and go Mario Williams. After his 4.66 at the combines his stock is soaring - even above what it was. If this guy turns into the next great DE, then he is more valuable then Bush who may or may not be a great PRO player. Even if they do go Bush, MW does not last past NYJ. Everyone has them taking Ferguson , but hello! Abraham is likely to be traded before/during the draft. They will not have a top DE, and by all accounts MW is a better prospect then the Brick. After seeing the stuff out there, I have a gut feeling Mario goes at 1.01: 1. Houston - Mario Williams - DE 2. New Orleans - Matt Leinhert - QB 3. Tennessee - Jay Cutler - QB 4. NY Jets - Reggie Bush - QB 5. Green Bay - AJ Hawk - LB 6. San Francisco - Michael Huff - S 7. Oakland - V Davis - TE 8. Buffalo - ? Points: 1. The key to this mock is that VY is dropping like a lead ballon. 2. The Jets need a RB, and Pennington is staying with reduced cap #s. 3. SF need some D, and Huff may be the 2nd best defender in the draft. A 6' 205 S with a 4.37 40? 4. Al Davis just dances to the beat of a different drummer. What's more, the man is virtually obsessed with speed. Here he is Al, the fastest TE of all time.... 5. For some reason I see Ferguson dropping. I've heard to many questionable things about run blocking and overall strength. NYJ pass for Bush, and the next 3 teams already have their (very expensive) LTs. He drops. 6. Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo, what to do..... I know! Trade down 3-5 spots to the sucker who wants VY, pick up another, and in this draft EXTREMELY valuable, 2nd rounder,and draft (Drum role please) Bunkley, who by some accounts is a better fit for our new system then Ngata anyway. Apparently the sweet spot in this draft is the 2nd round, with many highly regarded prospects. Imagine a Bunkley, a top LT, and a Mangold ©, Lutie (G) or Bing (SS). And the 3rd round hasn't even started yet. (Sorry about butchering the spellings.) JMVHO

And turn away the "gift horse" at your door, no doubt.

VERY good post 2003. A draft must be looked at from multiple angles - quality, depth, and the degree a prospect stands out from his peers. Those who say we MUST draft this position or that position simply have no appreciation for the overall process. If Huff is a Ronie Lot kind of guy, do you pass on him for Ngata who may only be marginally better then Watson in the 2nd? If you can pick an all pro kind of guy, you are nuts to go need.

The only thing worst then this trade rumor is that everyone here seems to think its a good idea. Lets see now: Move to 1.02, huge payroll hit. Check. Trading JP now, big cap hit. Check. No QB to replace him. Check. Sounds good to me... With that in mind, will all you guys who are declaring him a bust, or are ready to unload him, do me this one little favor? Please just STFU ! Thank you in advance. alg

The 16 is coming from the same sources we're getting the 6 from. Can't have it both ways bucko. But thanks for your great insights. BTW, the agent's interests in this are obvious, but since when did then NFL start playing 'hands-off' when it came to promoting future NFL meal tickets? Not. Its not to their advantage to have a highly hyped QB exposed as having a bag of rocks for a brain. Just look at how this info is coming out. It is a spin job, plain and simple.

Apparently he DID score a SIX on the test. Its coming out now that he scored a 16 - that, according to the spin mastering of the League and his agent. What they fail to tell you is his 16 is based on a rather hurried RE-TEST. Anyone want a QB who scores 6 on the Wonderlic? Sure, lets dump JP and give up our 1+2 for this guy. And a $40 million contract. BRILLIANT !!!

How amazing would that have been? Love TT, but come on, OJ by himself on the field would still give DCs fits.

I guess that means that Bledsoe is a near lock to go to the HOF as well, considering there is a better then even chance he passed Moon before retirement. Or how about Vinnie? How can they keep the man out? Stats don't lie.... .....riiiiight.....

I can confirm this. I was living in DC at the time (mid 80's) and would call and order my draft stuff from Mel each year. And it was his home. And we wouldn't talk for a few minutes. More like a half hour or more. A real good guy, and a man passionate about what he does. I remember after a couple of drafts into the Polian era he was VERY stoked about the Bills. Believed the players we were drafting were top notch, and that the team was being groomed for big things. He was right on. He could see a couple years into the future, and of course, the rest is history.

Me too. Miserable game, but man was Beebe my hero that day. PS, Cowboy fans suck.

Wade's defences played lights out at various and many points in his career. TC just got fired from 2 DC jobs in 2 years. And the last after MIN made substantial FA investments on the defensive side of the ball. It is safe to say that TC's ONLY success as a DC came when Wade was our HC. After Wade had already got the system up and runing - and successful.

Cotrell without Wade = Gray without Williams. No thanks.

Indeed buftex, the history is there for all to read...

You obviously have not lived in Houston. Maybe national perception has it that its better then Buffalo, but nothing could be further from the truth. The weather has all the advantages of a swamp, traffic is the equal of LA's mobile parking lot, and the city itself has all the charm of a strip mall. Actually, slightly less charm then a strip mall... And BTW, I'm being kind in case there are any Houstonians reading this. I've lived all across this country, and still I have a hard time figuring out why actual Bills fans continue to dis the fine city of Buffalo. Yea, hang all the politicians and cut the dang taxes in half for sure, but the city itself is far more liveable then most.

To be classless is to be a permanent loser.

No problem, but I do get PTRs point. I was really hoping for Haz back when Williams was being interviewed, but the timing just didn't work. The problem now, I suppose, is that after reading some stuff on JH, I'm not so sure he's actually a good coach. If the Bills hire him I'll give him some time and hope. Nothing could be better then combining competency and the respect for my home town.

Damned by faint praise...

Well said. I guess I have lived long enough to actually see the inmates run the frigging asylum....

Seriously. I cannot believe the drivel people are spewing over Holcromb. Kitna played OUTSTANDING ball the year before, but no one messed with the Palmer kid's development. But in Bills land a QB with 5 starts better put up or he goes to the bench....for a career journeyman. Fans and press have created a fake QB controversy, and it was allowed to fester because MM didn't put his foot down and cut this puppy off at the knees. I was here for DF v RJ, but this one is about as bogus and "Dawgged" as anything I have ever seen. 'We' fans better get a grip.

Personally I think this approach is brilliant! Consider: 1. While most of you have jumped on the "I HATE TD" bandwagon, I would like to remind you old timers that, Polian aside, we probably have never had a better wheeling and dealing GM in Buffalo - ever. Whats more, many of TDs picks are talents. JPL, LE and WM have a big time future with an improved line. You all need to stop foaming at the mouth about TD. If Wilson /Bills history is an indicator, he is much better then the guy who would replace him. 2. TD may in fact be the most important guy the Bills have had in the organization. Crazy? Well, this man has figured out how the Bills can make money, and has executed the plan. What does that mean on the football field? Nothing, other then that football field stands a much better chance of remaining RWS instead of, say, the Coliseum. 3. Sammy W at OC would be awesome indeed if his voice can work the change. My only problem with this list is JG. I have a suspicion that Williams/LeBeau were the real brains of the D operation. Just a hunch mind you...

Thank goodness we have posters with such excellent in-side information, or that know the people involved and can make in depth character assessments.

The histrionics on this board are reaching epic proportions. We are now finding reasons to hate/rant/rage in the most innocuous of places...

Thanks Tolstoy, for writing a reasonable post. I'm glad to know I am not the only one who cringes at the histrionics on this board.

I must admit that my time here is pretty sparce these days. One can only listen to so many (and constant) hissy fits. Not that anyone would have noticed...