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I was going to make a joke about spitting your mom's basement into TWO rooms, but I am trying to be nicer today.

Come on big guy, let's hug it out. Life is too short.

And that offer for a hug will remain open. Someday you will see that you shouldn't hate someone because they have a different opinion than you, and maybe the hug will seem a little less scary.

So the links I posted showing promise for HCQ to fight Covid from multiple real sources weren't enough for you to stop being such a d bag on the topic? Are you sure it's not just that you hate Doc? Cause it sure seems that way.

I am not, actually. My opinion is that it's a woman's right to choose, but I respect those that disagree on the topic. If I felt the way they do about conception I'd be in their camp, but I don't so I'm not. Back to the topic at hand, here is where you can sign up to help, Tibs: https://www.roomforrefugees.com/

Good point. Have you considered volunteering your home for refugees?

I feel like you could use a hug. I'll be at the opener if you want to hug it out. We're all people at the end of the day, and no matter how strong your opinion is, this this isn't your job.

@SDS, I nominate @Doc.

Here are some articles from a simple. You should probably reconsider calling ANYONE an internet fool. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7102549/ Conclusion Despite its small sample size, our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin. https://www.rcpjournals.org/content/clinmedicine/20/3/278 Wang et al carried out a study investigating the antiviral effects on SARS-CoV-2 of several drugs, some of which had previously been used against SARS or MERS. These included ribavirin, penciclovir, nitazonanide, nafamostat, remdesivir and favipiravir as well as chloroquine. These compounds were tested against SARS-CoV-2 in vitro, to assess the cytotoxicity, virus yield and infection rates. They found that chloroquine was effective at reducing viral yield in cell supernatant and additionally did so when the cells were treated 1 hour before infection as well as 2 hours post infection.22 Further investigation by this group focused on the antiviral effects of hydroxychloroquine, as this is a more widely utilised and better tolerated chloroquine derivative. They found that hydroxychloroquine was similarly effective at inhibiting viral infection both before and after viral entry.20 Yao et al found that both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine reduced viral replication of SARS-CoV-2 in a dose-dependent manner, but the EC50 values for hydroxychloroquine were lower than those for chloroquine, suggesting that hydroxychloroquine was more efficacious. In addition hydroxychloroquine was a more potent antiviral than chloroquine when the cells were pre-treated with the drug before viral infection.23 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32373993/ Results: For this study, we identified a total of 09 published articles: 03 clinical trials with sample size 150; 03 in vitro studies and 03 expert consensus reports. These studies were all suggestive that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine can successfully treat COVID-19 infections. We found that COVID-19 infections are highly pandemic in countries where malaria is least pandemic and are least pandemic in nations where malaria is highly pandemic. Conclusions: Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have antiviral characteristics in vitro. The findings support the hypothesis that these drugs have efficacy in the treatment of COVID-19. People are currently using these drugs for malaria. It is reasonable, given the hypothetical benefit of these two drugs, that they are now being tested in clinical trials to assess their effectiveness to combat this global health crisis.

Actually I recall quite a bit of documentation from credible sources talking about the possibility of HCQ being a viable treatment for Covid. In vitro it showed a lot of antiviral properties, and at the time it was as close as we had for a treatment for a GLOBAL PANDEMIC. Your "false narrative" claim is ironically a false narrative in and of itself, and essentially just Monday morning quarterbacking. There was nothing saying that it was a snake oil solution at any time. It's an effective drug with several uses, unfortunately clinically Covid 19 treatment doesn't seem to be one of them. For the record, I have never heard Doc tell anyone they shouldn't wear a mask or get vaccinated. And if stalking a guy around a message board with the same attack several times a day doesn't quantify as douchbaggery to you, you may want to reconsider your position.

What is your argument exactly, that HCQ (with or without Azithromycin) was not ever considered a viable treatment? Or that the medical community shouldn't try to leverage existing drugs to treat new conditions? Its hard to really understand why your being so douchy, other than the fact that you clearly hate Doc.

STILL beating this drum? Stop stalking the guy, weirdo. YOU are going to get us moderated.

I think @oldmanfan would be a good mod.

You caught me, I am a total snowflake. Douche bags trigger me. But I was probably vaccinated long before you, because I wasn't afraid of a vaccine produced under the Trump administration. But it was a personal choice that I am happy I made. Let's start a counter for you, beginning with the above post: HCQ - 1 Chef Jom Crow - 0

Yes. Men, whatever you do, keep your ****s out of the toaster.

You love it and you know it

I am happy to correct any grammatical issues my posts have if it opens up a slight chance of stopping you from being such a repetitive bore. What you are doing here isn't "work", unless acting like a divisive @ss is a job. Edit to add that if mocking grammar and screen names is your only game, maybe you should shut up and listen for awhile.

So can you clearly spell put your position here? I haven't had coffee yet.

Does the 75%+ surprise you? I think most thought it was probably overdue to get out of there, but as you can also see by the poll, most thought it was executed in terrible fashion.

I'm just tired of reading the same stupid attack over and over. You seem to think it's some badazz dig against the guy. There is such a thing as going to the well too often. Your worse than BillStime and the website that won't let him in, or the ever tiresome Chef Jom Crow. Get some new material.

What did Doc do to make you such a psycho about HCQ, and when are you going to get TF over it?

if only to chase.

You're just deflecting man. Per that agreement we had to have us troop totals down to 8600 troops. There was nothing preventing this administration from sending more troops in to ensure that this withdrawal could be done in a safe manner. But I think you know this. Regardless, I think we are done conversing, you and I.

With the #<$%ing Taliban? Resulting in the loss of American life? You cant possibly be serious. And you are flat out nuts if you think this makes any other country trust us. American lives were/are at stake and you are worried about offending the Taliban. Unreal. Regardless, there was NO REASON to pull put this early, and without coordinating with our allies and civilians.

Stop looking at this through partisan blinders. I agree that Trump is a POS, ok? He was right that we needed to get out of Afghanistan though. Unfortunately, we just can't blame him for how bad Biden @#$%ed this withdrawal up. There was nothing that prevented him from implementing a real evacuation instead of this disasterous panicked retreat, outside of his half azzed attempt to be out by 9/11. I know you want it to be the POS Trump, but this is all on Biden. And since when did he have an issue with overriding ANY of the previous administration's works? He set a freaking EO record. Just stop with the Trump crap.