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I just remembered i put 100 bucks down on Josh mvp before the season - I had blocked it out after it became a sure thing Lamar would win 😛

If eye in the sky is done properly it doesn't disrupt the flow at all - see an obvious wrong call immediately and call down to the ref to correct it and play is hardly interrupted at all. The stupid thing that does disrupt the play is ridiculous limited challenges where refs stand there for minutes looking at a tablet - when the eye in the sky and millions of people on their couch see with super slo-mo and multiple angles immediately see obviously wrong calls. I think it is dumb to limit eye in the sky to specific plays - the rule should be any play that millions of people on their coach can see is obviously wrong should be corrected. The key being obvious - people who argue well some calls are subjective - well they almost all are - if it isn't immediately obvious then the eye in the sky doesn't intervene - even then the game is 1000% better when the obvious calls are corrected in real time by the eye in the sky with no disruption It's also dumb to me to assume that somehow a ref on the field always has a "better view" of a play than multiple slo-mo angles in high-def. It has been shown over and over the game moves too fast for refs on the field to see every play properly The key to me is getting the eye in the sky immediate replay looks - not sure how that works today, I assume they have access to replays beyond the the crappy TV production that exists nowadays where replays aren't even shown for majority of plays to viewers

It's been brought up in multiple threads (and above). The ball currently has a chip that is used for various statistical gathering - but it is only accurate to 6 inches so it is not used for spot location. Hopefully the NFL invests in improving the technology so it can be accurate enough to be used to spot the ball

They say they can't use the optical systems as they exist bc bodies etc can interfere. They definitely should be able to improve the accuracy of the chip so that it can be used - and it can be synced in time to video to determine things like location when knee down etc - it is just a matter of making it a focus and investing in it. Hopefully this will spur that

The chips aren't currently used for spots bc they say they are only accurate to 6 inches. I've commented in multiple threads the NFL needs to invest some of their billions of dollars in annual revenue in perfecting the technology so that it is more accurate and can be used. They are bringing this on themselves when they don't make full use of eye in the sky to immediately reverse all plays that are obviously wrong, and technology to spot the ball properly

Same as when people say "Oh Brady/Patriots got all the calls" - as if it is just some offhand thing that everyone just accepts - except it absolutely had a huge effect on their ability to win playoff games and SBs and their 'dynasty' - same with the Chiefs

There's about a million threads where people mention it was dumb to do the 'push tush' so many times. I have no problem with the call - it was the execution. Half of them weren't even true 'tush pushes' - with Josh going low and a big person (or persons) pushing from behind. Some had no push at all. The only thing I would have said was be prepared to pick another gap - make the call at the line which gap you are going into. Didn't seem like they were prepared to do that. Esp w/ that I think a true tush push (Josh picking the gap pre-snap and going low with a big man pushing) would have worked 100%

This is dumb. If you have a concussion you are more likely to get another one, even a long period of time later (ask Eric Lindros). There are rules in place for the protocol and he passed them - then took a direct hit to the helmet that probably would have concussed him if he never had one in his life. The protocol would have to include "never play again" to 100% guarantee you wouldn't get another one

Maybe he'll bring Nate Hackett along as his OL quality control coach

Crosby made the rounds on NFLN shows a couple weeks ago and without coming out and saying it, he really didn't seem to hide the fact he loves Josh Allen and would love to play for the Bills

I must have woken up like 20 times last night - each time auto-replaying some play from the game and how it could have turned out different, making me sick to my stomach - like some fever dream. I'm sure similar happened after 13 seconds etc but I don't remember - guess that is a good thing over time this one will fade too So many critical plays that if just one went a different way.... Won't be watching any sports shows for the next 2 wks - my God two full weeks of full on Mahomes ball washing. The one good thing about the 24/7 Lamar MVP hype the last few weeks of the season was at least Mahomes/Chiefs were not the conversation. But here we are again And now it's "Allen is 0-4 against Mahomes in the playoffs" - despite 13 seconds, and dropped pass by Diggs, missed Bass FG, 4th down spot, and Kincaid drop etc all of which could have changed the narrative. And the last drive was there for the taking too - to change the narrative and define legacy - just makes it worse

I said in the "ref" thread I definitely have not seen a game where there were so many egregiously bad spots, and with so many never shown on replay, and all against the same team. It was truly bizarre. The NFL needs to figure out how to use technology to determine where the ball is. There already is a chip in the ball, from what I've read they don't use it for spotting the ball bc it is only accurate to 6 inches. Then invest some of the BILLIONS of dollars in annual revenue to make it more accurate. I've seen people say that alone won't tell you if a knee is down etc - then you sync the ball location and time to replay to see where the ball was at the precise time knee was down. The technology is there, just perfect it. As has been pointed out - it is a "game of inches" - and nothing is more susceptible to ref "influence" or incompetence than the stupid situation now where a ref is across the field to see where the ball is then runs 60 ft across the field and meandering who knows how much along the way. "wE cAn PuT a MaN oN tHe MoOn BuT tHe NfL cAn'T sPoT tHe BaLl PrOpErLy????!!!!"

I surprisingly can't find anywhere the shot from the skycam on the 4th down that they flashed for a millisecond after commercial break - it showed conclusively that the ball was over. Surprised there isn't more discussion about that on the web. The other crazy thing about the two refs spotting different spots is the ref on the top that gave a clear first down is the one Josh was facing and who saw the ball, Josh's back was turned to the one who came from the bottom and did the short spot (which they inexplicably chose), so he couldn't have even seen where the ball was! The people trying to say McD should have challenged are barking up a tree as far as I'm concerned - there was ZERO chance they were going to give the first after eye in the sky took a look and did not overturn - I mean just look at all the gymnastics they did on the field to not give the first. (I read on one reddit thread that NFL can't access or use the skycam shot? Not sure if that is true - if so that is stupid too) I definitely have not seen a game where there were so many egregiously bad spots, and with so many never shown on replay, and all against the same team. It was truly bizarre. The NFL needs to figure out how to use technology to determine where the ball is. There already is a chip in the ball, from what I've read they don't use it for spotting the ball bc it is only accurate to 6 inches. Then invest some of the BILLIONS of dollars in annual revenue to make it more accurate. I've seen people say that alone won't tell you if a knee is down etc - then you sync the ball location and time to replay to see where the ball was at the precise time knee was down. The technology is there, just perfect it. As has been pointed out - it is a "game of inches" - and nothing is more susceptible to ref "influence" or incompetence than the stupid situation now where a ref is across the field to see where the ball is then runs 60 ft across the field and meandering who knows how much along the way. "wE cAn PuT a MaN oN tHe MoOn BuT tHe NfL cAn'T sPoT tHe BaLl PrOpErLy????!!!!" If the NFL wants to curtail some of the fan outrage over games being 'fixed' or determined by incompetent refs the need to 1) Allow eye in the sky for all plays. To me this one is simple - the criteria is "if millions on the couch immediately see the call is clearly wrong, then fix it" It doesn't matter what type of call/play, if it is obvious - and any idiot watching on a TV can see it's obvious - then fix it. Just use common sense 2) Perfect and install technology to spot the ball precisely and accurately

I wasn't mad at the calls, but the execution. Half of them didn't even have someone pushing - one Josh like tried to fake the dive and run outside, one there was no one pushing, one it was a RB from behind and barely pushing, one going over the top etc. It should be unstoppable 99/100 if your big body QB gets low, hits a gap, and has a a BIG body (or bodies) pushing from behind. They just didn't do that each time for some reason. I do agree maybe picking another gap to the right, say, but the basic execution should be the same. So frustrating

Was that Kincaid or Charles clay

Gonna be like 5 spies on Josh this play

Tuck that ball josh

Fine with that - at least we ll get the ball back

Would rather give up a quick score than have them score with no time left

Hopefully get the ball back if they score

Have a free shot to destroy him and barely touch him

The top shot showed it clearly over omfg

From the top the ball was clearly over. If they don't give its complete bs

Omg its not the goal line josh

I was screaming- its so crazy. Even on rays run the ref had it marked initially as a first then ran serpentine down the field tonthe ball