stevewin

I was actually going to mention Edwards by name ? I truly have always though you could plug in any number of QBs in the same situation with the same results - although who knows if every one would have sold their soul to do it. The way the whole Brady GOAT thing gets casually tossed around now drives me crazy

The last part is one of the reasons why I can't stand Brady. If true - imagine the advantage of being talked through how to play the position of QB live on the field - being fed correct info (gathered through other cheating) on what the defense is going to do live while you are playing. Week after week. The advantage in learning how to play the position is unprecedented in sport. Even if the helmet receiver shenanigans stopped after some period (no guarantee) - the learning period when it was on would give you an astronomical advantage over other players who need to learn the position over time. Then factor in the same offensive system and coaching forever, any/all other advantages from systematic cheating by the org (incl miraculous reclamation projects likely tied to PEDs) discounts on FAs going just to get a ring, advantageous game altering officiating year after year, etc etc. His whole career is an absolute farce. With those advantages, how many other just decent QBs would have had the same success - tens, hundreds?

But not a Patriots** employee!

So will Kraft Production film crew be there filming the next chapter of the thrilling advance scout doc?

And if he didn't take them he would not have dominated for so long and would not have been considered the best ever (before being caught)

No kidding - because they might actually have been bad at cheating this time they shouldn't be punished. WTF is that

Would also love to see it turn public opinion that Bellicheat isn't quite the football genius everyone thinks, a stop all the Brady GOAT crap

Take a peek at the Patsfan forum "They weren't even Patriot employees - they were employees of Kraft Productions!"

It was nice to see Flores so PO'd after the Jets game this week. Dude wants to win - I don't think they'll be running for the bus

It's so great that Brady's insecurity and ego forced their hand to get rid of a ready-made successor. What a douche

The Bengals just happened to be who they were filming when they got caught. If anything it just supports that the cheating is constant and in place for all opponents - no discrimination

Earlier in this thread like page 9 someone did the "But everyone does it" defense - was surprised it took that long. There's also "they are so good they don't even need to cheat" - like in some twisted way that excuses it - and of course ignores that maybe the cheating is the REASON for "being good"

Then once and for all public opinion can sway to stop treating them as a model dynastic franchise, and for God's sake stop calling Brady GOAT - it sickens me every time I hear it

There is zero - ZERO - chance Brady hasn't had knowledge of, and been complicit with, all the cheating over the past 20 years. He freaking learned how to play QB by never having his helmet radio turned off on the field for God's sake Still think what we know is actually just the tip of the iceberg

My takeaway from the story is where she said security came and said they "have cameras everwhere"

Or Budapest

As soon as it happened I said to my son "That's the one highlight from this game they're going to show over and over all week"

I seriously think about this every time I watch a Cheater home game - if a team would hire someone to sweep for bugs. They haven't lost at home in 100 years and are known for making miraculous adjustments after halftime ?

Pretty much all the talking head coverage I've seen today just was just about Lamar is so fantastic - with the requisite clip of Milano grabbing air with over-excited "WOW" "OH MAN" "LOOK AT HIM" voiceovers - if you didn't watch the game you would think the Bills D got dominated BTW - Bomani Jones was the first and only person I've seen who came out and said the Cheaters problem on offense is that Brady sucks but no one will say that, if any other QB was playing like he is they would be skewered for bad play

That's a good point on the signaling under 15 seconds I think there's zero chance if this actually is something he doesn't get touched - and I think he's pretty stupid to think he won't. The world wants to glorify him for being the genius that has his fingerprints all over every single aspect of the franchise - can't then feign ignorance on something like this. Completely not credible.

How many 20-30 yard runs does any back get in a season?

It absolutely mysrifies me the media and so many in the public (including some "Bills fans") give such reverential treatment to Bellicheat and Brady. They are proven cheating scumbags plain and simple - should be derided and ostracized like Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds - instead they are worshipped. The media actually uses "Patriot** Way" to convey something positive! I feel like I live in some kind of bizarro world sometimes.

Followed by the documementary on the camera man who filmed the documentary on the scout. Who was, you know, doing his job

I love that the Cheaters will hopefully have games they'll want/need to win right up to the end of season and not just be able to rest people the last weeks