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Does anyone else think Lonnie "friggin" Johnson every time they say his name

Yes - part of what we are seeing is the great QB equalizer when WRs aren't playing well

Watson hero ball lateral

I'm kinda curious - I thought I heard something last week that JJ Watt was injured or something. Really hoping there's a chance they touch on that during the broadcast.

Yes - make use of his arm and let him rip it on schemed/timed routes more vs dealing with all the variables for option routes

That's what she said

They are naive - everyone knows the only way to drive fan-initiated change is to erect a billboard

He will be an epic fail if he goes outside his 20 yr system of cheating, 7 yrd slants, and phantom PI calls. My greatest joy will be seeing him go to another team next year and completely sucking - getting pummeled on a regular basis as he pouts and throws hissy fits (so "competitive"!) while announcers originally wail that poor Tommy just Doesn't Have Any Weapons ? - then slowly come to the realization he just isn't that good - as they remove his privates from their orifices and start to speak the truth that all along he was a product of the system - system of cheating. GOAT my a$$

DK ia the new Mahomes

Kinda rooting for mccown tbh

4 pages and no one has posted a single pic? It's worth a thousand words, people!

Every time i see Carroll's stupid face I think of him blowing that SB and handing it to the Cheaters

I dont feel too bad for the kid. His little cheater fanhood, and that that of his whole little cheater fan generation, will be short lived and over before the Cheaters end up 8-8 next year

Actually the rule now is that if a kick lands in the end zone without being fielded it is a touchback

Kirk Cousins Mr Primetime/Playoff Clutch

I was down so I went to patsfan.com to get cheered up. What really did it for me was a post someone made asking what they should do - their 9 year old was so devestated by the loss they cried themselves to sleep. The thought of this sad little sniveling chowderhead cheater fan brought a smile to my face and warmed my heart.

It appears you're just being a troll at this point - hopefully everyone in this thread just starts to ignore you

He meant to give himself up - but by rule did not. It is unambiguously defined in the rule book what needs to be done by a player to give himself up, and he did not do that. He did not hit the ground or take a knee - which is written in the rule as a requirement. It could not be more clear cut.

Because everyone ran up to him and said "OMG there's going to be a real sh!tstorm if we let this stand, we have to reverse it because we all know what he meant to do!"

? This is a ridiculous thing to say The analogy starts from the time the ball is in the player's hands - and the analogy matches exactly. If a QB in victory formation (or any other time) has the ball and wants to give himself up he must take a knee. If a kick returner has the ball in his hand and wants to give himself up he must take a knee. Both by rule. Exact same application of rule as written.

That's the whole point - "giving himself up" is defined in the rules as "falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance" Ie. - falling to the ground or kneeling is required by rule to "give yourself up". Throwing ball to the ref, or yelling "I'm giving myself up" - or waving a sign that says same does not satisfy the rule

The ref didn't tell him to stay, the ref signaled "Don't give me that MF'ing ball, MF'er - it's still live!"

Yeah - key is "falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance" - which clearly didn't happen. Nothing that can be done now - but yeah it sucks. Se discussion at 4:30 mark of video linked in this thread

This was actually an excellent discussion. Didn't realize rule was written "AND". I was fine with the call at the time, but this doesn't make me feel better. Hasselbeck has perfect analogy with victory formation - you can't just hand the ball over when the rule says you must be down. They try to play devil's advocate and say Bills still lost the game, but there is zero percent chance they lose if that is called a TD. The shame really is the ref got it right to begin, then caved to everyone saying "Oh my God everyone knows what he meant to do" As they mention - it's real dicey territory when officials don't follow the rule as written and decide to alter calls based on what they consider intent. In this case it may have been obvious, but what about other situations that may not be so clear cut. That's why the rules are there.