stevewin

I still hold out hope that over time more of the systematic cheating comes out - and that eventually they will both be fully exposed and rightly ostracized for the contemptible cheating scum they are

At least two of them are Cheater fans. What in their life causes a Cheater fan to frequent a Bills message board like the annoyimg kid in high school no one wants around can be the subject of the next 12 part documentary by Kraft Productiins.

I'm sure he also wants to be careful - in his line of work he may be looking for any kind of work from any other NFL team someday, wants to keep all his options open

The GOAT thing drives me insane. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only sane person in the world

This is interesting. Someone should identify the 10 largest coorporate sponsors for the NFL and start a grassroots campaign to inundate them

You just need to find one - then provide evidence. I honestly think about this every time i watch a Cheater home game

I.e., sweep it under the rug as fast as possible

I was actually going to mention Edwards by name ? I truly have always though you could plug in any number of QBs in the same situation with the same results - although who knows if every one would have sold their soul to do it. The way the whole Brady GOAT thing gets casually tossed around now drives me crazy

The last part is one of the reasons why I can't stand Brady. If true - imagine the advantage of being talked through how to play the position of QB live on the field - being fed correct info (gathered through other cheating) on what the defense is going to do live while you are playing. Week after week. The advantage in learning how to play the position is unprecedented in sport. Even if the helmet receiver shenanigans stopped after some period (no guarantee) - the learning period when it was on would give you an astronomical advantage over other players who need to learn the position over time. Then factor in the same offensive system and coaching forever, any/all other advantages from systematic cheating by the org (incl miraculous reclamation projects likely tied to PEDs) discounts on FAs going just to get a ring, advantageous game altering officiating year after year, etc etc. His whole career is an absolute farce. With those advantages, how many other just decent QBs would have had the same success - tens, hundreds?

But not a Patriots** employee!

So will Kraft Production film crew be there filming the next chapter of the thrilling advance scout doc?

And if he didn't take them he would not have dominated for so long and would not have been considered the best ever (before being caught)

No kidding - because they might actually have been bad at cheating this time they shouldn't be punished. WTF is that

Would also love to see it turn public opinion that Bellicheat isn't quite the football genius everyone thinks, a stop all the Brady GOAT crap

Take a peek at the Patsfan forum "They weren't even Patriot employees - they were employees of Kraft Productions!"

It was nice to see Flores so PO'd after the Jets game this week. Dude wants to win - I don't think they'll be running for the bus

It's so great that Brady's insecurity and ego forced their hand to get rid of a ready-made successor. What a douche

The Bengals just happened to be who they were filming when they got caught. If anything it just supports that the cheating is constant and in place for all opponents - no discrimination

Earlier in this thread like page 9 someone did the "But everyone does it" defense - was surprised it took that long. There's also "they are so good they don't even need to cheat" - like in some twisted way that excuses it - and of course ignores that maybe the cheating is the REASON for "being good"

Then once and for all public opinion can sway to stop treating them as a model dynastic franchise, and for God's sake stop calling Brady GOAT - it sickens me every time I hear it

There is zero - ZERO - chance Brady hasn't had knowledge of, and been complicit with, all the cheating over the past 20 years. He freaking learned how to play QB by never having his helmet radio turned off on the field for God's sake Still think what we know is actually just the tip of the iceberg

My takeaway from the story is where she said security came and said they "have cameras everwhere"

Or Budapest

As soon as it happened I said to my son "That's the one highlight from this game they're going to show over and over all week"

I seriously think about this every time I watch a Cheater home game - if a team would hire someone to sweep for bugs. They haven't lost at home in 100 years and are known for making miraculous adjustments after halftime ?