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Good work on those talking points, I've got a few follow up questions: -In what ways did you feel the party "move to the left" in this campaign? -How would you compare the negativity of the Bush campaign to the negativity of the Kerry campaign? -How do Michael Moore and George Soros differ from Jerry Falwell and Grover Norquist? I agree with the argument that the party currently lacks an overall theme. I think there are a few identities that the Dems will attempt to develop over the next 2 years (pre-mid terms.) -The party of the balanced budget (wow what a difference 20 years makes) -The party of Health Care reform -The party of personal liberties (this is how they MUST frame the civil unions debate) -The party against outsourcing of jobs (I wish they had better driven that home) -The party of the higher minimum wage -The party of Affirmative Action

Well I'm gonna' need pointers on the tailgating. The driver of my group has decided he wants the full experience, starting at 9 AM. I'll be with the NYBBB tomorrow, so I figure those folks can help me out with the whens and wheres.

No it's not; this chart is pretty clear: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr51_03t11.pdf

I had a couple of buddies duck out on me for the game this Sunday. I tried to move the pair thru the folks at NYCBBB to no avail; shoot me a message if you are interrested. In case you are wondering they are section 308, row 35 (not for those with a fear of heights.) 46 bucks a pop at face value.

Didn't say "you" were pulling those numbers out of your butt; no offense intended there.

Over 100 years? Talk about pulling numbers out of your butt. A White Female has the longest life expectancy, at around 80 years according to the US Government. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lifexpec.htm White males, and then members of minorities fall off from there. Bills fans are somewhere lower on the list as well...

First off, I don't see Social Security as anyone's primary source of savings for someone's retirement. I'm sure we agree on that statement; the majority of your savings should (and currently IS) privately controlled. I see Social Security as a safety net; there to protect seniors if god forbid their retirement money is invested in something that the bottom falls out of. I don't believe in tying this safety net to anything in the private sector, it should be absolutely guaranteed. I don't want a market Rosen to result in seniors being left out on the streets.

Where can I find further info/statistics? What protection is there against a market Rosen?

I stand, well not corrected per se, but certainly befuddled. Wow, that is some imprecise language isn't it?

I would think it logically follows that people in the larger port cities would be more socially tolerant. The population in these cities is much more diverse, mostly due to their historical roles as trade hubs, and their immigrant populations. Diversity, and it’s resulting exposure to other peoples and lifestyle,s leads to a much more tolerant populace.

I'm there... Any of y'all doing the Saturday thing with the NYBBB?

FOR GODS SAKE, READ THE CONSTITUTION! Amendment XII The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Jon Stewert last wondered if the Democrats could only appeal to people with boats...

Now NYC's term limits are structured differntly. For instance in the next Mayoral election, Rudy can run.

Add two more Dems: Bill Richardson (New Mexico Gov) Mark Warner (Virgina Gov)

I wonder if Hillary's choice of NY as her launching point cripples her in a national race. From this vantage point (such as it is) I don't know how a Democratic canidate from somewhere other than the South (or possibly the Southwest, if population trends hold) can win.

I can't see how the days of the exit poll continues. It looks like the model was off by a uniform 5 points; which is a pretty healthy chunk.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2109053/

This Round comes from slate. GRAIN OF SALT ONCE AGAIN. Ohio Kerry 50 Bush 49 FLA Kerry 50 Bush 49 PA Kerry 54 Bush 45 WI Kerry 51 Bush 46 MN Kerry 58 Bush 40 NV Bush 50 Kerry 48 NM Kerry 50 Bush 48 NC Bush 51 Kerry 49 CO Bush 53 Kerry 46 More warnings: EXIT POLLS, NOT ACTUAL RESULTS. TAKE AS SUCH!

I'll throw it once more in the thread before I go shopping for my election party. -This was from a Lefty Blog (however Drudge seems to be in agreement) -They are UN WEIGHTED EXIT Polls (which in 2000 weren't the most acuate thing in the world) -It's still very early But, it's interresting to take a look at early indicators like this...

Outstanding news for Kerry. KEEPING IN MIND THESE ARE ONLY EXIT POLLS. So with a huge grain of salt here are some unweighted VNS 2 PM exit polls: AZ: Bush +10 CO: Bush +3 LA:Bush +15 PA:Kerry +20 OH:Kerry +4 FL:Kerry +3 MI:Kerry +4 NM:Kerry +2 MN:Kerry + 18 WI:Kerry +11 IA:Dead Even NH:Kerry +4 once again: LEAKED EXIT POLLS, TAKE THEM AS SUCH. Picked this up off a lefty blog, Drudge now breaking these same findings (for whatever that is worth)

Someone beat me to the punch. Kerry's replacement will be decided in a special election, the law changed this year.

Popular Vote: Kerry 49 Bush 48 Other 3 EV: Kerry 284 Bush 254

It is indeed all voting machine in NYC, but I'm not sure that's what he's looking for. I've seen a reproduction of the ballot layout distributed ahead of time in NYC. I don't think he's looking to fill something out ahead of time; just a chance to see what it's going to look like when he walks into the booth.

Huh, the NYC board of elections website is down..fun, fun. I know polls in Queens are open 6AM to 9PM. You want to get in touch with your local board of elections. The easiest way would be to call 311, they can give you the phone number of your board of elections.