Brand J

As long as the player hasn’t suffered any major injuries or his body hasn’t broken down in other ways that compromise his movement, a player can retain his speed throughout his career. And I’ve heard coaches and players alike say that “strength and speed” are the last to leave you. Usain Bolt ran a 4.22 at 33 years old in sweat pants. Terrell Owens is faster now than he was at the combine, three decades ago. Darrell Green, Don Beebe, James Lofton, etc. And it’s not just the speedsters - Doug Flutie said his speed was still the same when a reporter asked how fast he was (because he was an older player running around like a young one). If your body can avoid breaking down, you’ll still have your speed. Obviously that’s not the case with Tre.

Lots of positive separation reports coming from Coleman. Maybe he’s learning to be more nuanced in his route running and gives away less of what he intends to run. It’s year 2 for him, definitely need him to step up from his first half performance last year. I won’t even comment on his second half, that guy just seemed to be coasting when he came back from injury.

I am bummed about Bishop, even if it’s a minor injury this early in camp, but you’d like to see this guy become more durable. It’s because of his camp injuries last year that Hamlin started. He needs all the time on task that he can get. As far as Spector, that guy gets hurt crawling out of bed.

Man, you had me nervous when I read the first two lines. I thought you were providing updates on injuries that happened in practice today!

Yeah that one’s not likely to be replicated again. Josh was the only player on offense with a turnover. Unreal. Joe Marino said something to the effect of he’d bank on the Bills being tops again in turnover differential rather than tops in 3rd down success (if he had to choose between the two). I’m the opposite. I think turnovers have far more variance.

Hearing a lot of positives about Moore, but I’m gonna temper my enthusiasm a bit until they’re in pads. I remember Tavon Austin tore up minicamp a few years ago. Also on Coleman vs Hairston, you wouldn’t think a 4.61 player could burn someone who runs a 4.29, but here we are. As Jerry Rice, Anquan Boldin, and countless others have proven, speed as an outside receiver is a bit overrated. Knowing how to separate is where it’s at.

I would imagine everyone on this board enjoys the journey. Everyone. Even if the ultimate disappoint makes them physically ill, there’s a ton of fun to be had before, during, and after a (victorious) game. If that wasn’t true, we wouldn’t watch or spend a dime on the Bills. I can only speak for myself, but my “so what?” angle in response to the OP’s use of team statistics was just that… so what. Doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy the journey, it doesn’t mean every season is meaningless if it doesn’t end in a Super Bowl, doesn’t mean we should ignore the great things that come with having a perennial playoff team. At the end of the day, I just personally don’t want to see team statistics posted and praised if those stats ring hollow when it matters most. What has the team achieved? What hardware? Any AFC Championship trophies? Super Bowl appearances? Super Bowl titles? At the end of the day, would it make any difference if we were 10th in offense and 10th in defense from 2020-2024 and the ride was just as fun before it ended in heartbreaking fashion? To me, it wouldn’t, so that’s why I shrug. Let’s get some hardware to back up those pretty team stats and then we can flex ‘em. Until then… so what.

What relevance do the 2020-2024 offensive and defensive stats have without so much as a Super Bowl appearance? Like I said, it was a pretty stat, but it ultimately doesn’t mean or translate to anything.

I know the Bills regular season numbers against Mahomes are vastly different than postseason. I know Reid said he hides some things, but Pat plays much better and the defense plays far worse (usually with a key injury or two somewhere, but that doesn’t excuse them).

He ran a 4.4 at 6’6” 246? Didn’t realize he was that big and fast, he should be dominating. Do think it’ll take more than a 3rd like this article speculates.

Or perhaps we shouldn’t brag about stats until we have a platform to stand on. Want to brag about individual stats or Josh’s MVP? Awesome, I’m right there with you - especially if it’s a concrete award the player can show off. But to brag about team stats when the team hasn’t accomplished the singular goal every team strives for year after year? It just rings hollow. You can feel differently and brag about these stats all you want, that’s your prerogative. It’s also mine to shrug at such team statistics that haven’t been backed by anything concrete.

Yes, my fault. It was Seth Joyner.

Bernard’s 2023 season is/was hard to replicate. He put up stats that year that no other LB had done in recent history, since Clyde Simmons in the 90s I think it was.

Pretty stat, but doesn’t mean much when that team from Mizzou has owned us and been to 5 SBs in less than a decade.

Surprised Gabe hasn’t signed anywhere yet.