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Cool with all of that, but not big on extending Rousseau if the $25M/yr projections are correct. To make that much, you gotta have more than 5 sacks in 15 games and disrupt Mahomes far more often than he has rushing against their weak tackles.

I feel like he’s due to strike gold on a DL pick.

It’ll be a crap shoot either way - going with an unproven rookie, or continuing with Bass (who we know has had a case of the yips).

I meant by drafting one with promise. You can usually get a good kicker from round 5 on.

They should bring in legitimate competition for Bass, not a guy who had a 1% chance of unseating him during the regular season. If he wins the job again, great.

Wasn’t even Josh’s best season statistically and we relied heavily on the run game. It’s gotta go to OJ.

She’s a tall gal. D1 babies incoming…

Eric Wood’s burner 😂 No, I just found it ridiculous you’d chastise someone for defending a man Eric Wood knows 100% better than you, a guy who read about Richie on the internet. Incognito does have mental and behavioral issues, which have been pointed out extensively in this thread. I said a guy can be a jerk or an a**hole, but it doesn’t necessarily make them a bad person. Humans are complicated; Incognito can use inappropriate language one week and visit children in a hospital the next. And hey, I wouldn’t hang out with these personality types myself, but I have been around some who were of that ilk, though more mild. You know who I can definitely say was a bad person? Aaron Hernandez. Rae Carruth. Lawrence Phillips. R. Kelly. P. Diddy. Jeffrey Dahmer. Ted Bundy. The ***** who shot up that Tops Supermarket. The list goes on and on. But Richie Incognito? I mean, if Jonathan Martin was a soft player, then you can call Incognito a soft bad person, I suppose.

That’s the crux of it right there. I don’t care how the Bills defense ranked at the end of the regular season. They always folded like origami in the playoffs. Always.

Reading his Wikipedia, sounds like he’s had anger issues from a very early age and was actually mandated to take anger management classes. Who knows what his later issues were, but he’s a proven behavioral problem child. Reminds me in many ways of Bill Romanowski. I disagree about him being a total failure as a man and a human being for obvious reasons. A total failure ends up in prison at age 18 for a 25 to life sentence. Incognito reached the pinnacle of athletic achievement and started 164 games in the NFL. That, to me, is not representative of a complete and total failure. You may see it differently. Does he have mental issues? Oh yeah. But by and large his life has been a success - regardless of what anyone else thinks of him.

Here’s my 2024 All-Hindsight Draft (top 3 picks): 2) #33 - DT T’Vondre Sweat (at 6’4” 366lbs the Bills find their run stopping DT1. Made the PFWA All Rookie team). 2) #60 - S Calen Bullock (at 6’3” 190 with 4.48 speed, the Bills find their center field replacement for Micah Hyde. Made the PFWA All Rookie team). 3) #95 - WR Troy Franklin (I know he underwhelmed with Denver and had a much publicized drop, but I’m taking a swing with the speedster here. Maybe he would’ve looked better with Allen throwing to him.) I think that group will prove, collectively, to be better long term than Coleman, Bishop, and Carter. I hope not, but it is what it is.

You know what’s bonkers? Making definitive statements about someone’s character when you haven’t been in the rooms to fully grasp what happened. Is Richie an a**hole? A jerk? Yep, sure looks like it, but it doesn’t automatically mean he’s a despicable guy. Same could be said for Aaron Rodgers. Some people have said Jim Kelly was a jerk. Michael Jordan was called a bully by some of his teammates. Does that mean all of them are bad guys? We don’t know these people. He’s not apologizing because he doesn’t believe he did anything wrong. He should apologize, even if - in his eyes - the situation was blown out of proportion and - in Martin’s own words - the Wells report was a clown show. Eric Wood is the main guy to come out and defend Richie, but has there been a slew of other players that said “this guy is cancerous”? Richie Incognito is “scum of the Earth”? Not to my knowledge, all I see is a former teammate defending him. Without a full understanding of the situation, I won’t make definitive statements either way on who Richie Incognito is as a person, but you do you.

It wouldn’t surprise me, he’s 4 years younger. Look at Garrett’s pass rusher production his first four years and compare it to Parsons. It’s almost identical. I know Garrett is the bigger, more complete player, but the league values age along with productivity and Parsons hasn’t even signed his second contract yet.

I’d welcome it, he’s much younger too. Probably would take more draft capital. The drawback is that our team would have to deal with a personality that wore on the Cowpokes locker room. He’s a phenomenal pass rusher though and that’s the one thing missing (aside from a big, run stopping tub of fat at DT).

Yeah, that’s the thing… the trainer’s room isn’t only Incognito and the assistant trainer, it’s multiple trainers, multiple athletes, positional coaches, etc. I of course don’t know how this trainer felt, but if he/she was laughing along and dishing out comebacks of their own, it’s not going to pass as bullying. If it was a situation where it was clearly uncomfortable for the assistant trainer (and thereby uncomfortable for others in the room), somebody would’ve told Incognito to shut the hell up. I take the words he said to the trainer (and Martin) as inappropriate, over the top language, but I struggle to believe Incognito said these things with malice or ill intent. In other words, I don’t believe that he believed what he was saying. I can’t paint him as a “bad person” because of his language, his actions and almost universal dislike of others who’ve associated with him would ring truer to me.