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Yes, I believe our record doesn't reflect our talent level. Poor quarterback play and coaching cost us the game against the Titans, Colts, and the Pats. QB is the only position that can single-handedly lift a whole organization on his back. See Denver, Washington and Indy. If there were a sure fire, can't miss quarterback prospect available to us this year then I'm all for losing out, but there isn't. Even with the first overall pick (which would be impossible for us to obtain) in this coming draft, I don't see immediate upgrades to our roster outside of Manti Te'o. After the first round, who do you see as definite upgrades to: Glenn, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Hairston/Pears, Spiller, Freddie, Stevie J, Chandler, Mario, Marcell, Kyle Williams, Kyle Moore, Barnett, Gilmore, Byrd, Wilson/Searcy, McKelvin, and Brooks? We've got some good talent here. Learning how to win is the most important thing, right now.

In years passed, I would've said lose out. Not this year. Our talent level is much better than our record dictates. I believe we're only a few pieces (WR, 2 LBers, QB) away from being a great team. On top of all that there aren't any real slam dunk prospects coming out this year's draft so losing out wouldn't be worth it. At this point, we need to learn how to win more than anything else.

On the positive side, all of his injuries should make him cheaper to keep.

I tracked Ron Brooks while watching shortcuts today. The Jaguars went after him a whopping 18 times. He gave up 7 catches and had one PI penalty and an illegal use of hands penalty. Two passes defensed. Talk about your on the job training! Holy cow! 18 targets! Counting the penalties, he was beat 50% of the time. Not good, but not horrible either. The kid looks like he belongs out there.

Lot's of great ideas. Here are some of my favs: Here are some of my own: 1. If any part of the ball touches the ground, IT ISN'T A CATCH! 2. Bring back the force out rule or keep it as is and change it to one foot being in-bounds for a catch to be ruled a catch. 3. Bring back team celebrations for touchdowns. It's a team game, why can't they celebrate as a team? As long as no props are used and they finish their celebrations before the extra point, who cares? Bring back the fun. 4. No more illegal formations. As long as you're behind the line of scrimmage, what does it matter how many men are on the LOS? 5. Ban the two point conversion or make them mandatory (no more kicking for extra points). You had to get your 8 point lead the hard way, why should teams be able to come back from that deficit in one possession? 6. For every challenge you win, you get back another one. The refs messed up in the first place, why should I lose out on correcting more of your F'ups, later?

That doesn't mean I support it.

Are you people high? I never said I supported Hamas. On the contrary, I denounce them.

Palestine. Gaza is overcrowded as it is, why would the Israelis want any part of it? Go back to the pre '67 borders, then we'll see peace, because Hamas' cause will be given a death-blow.

You're far too short sighted to see why the Palestinians would do any of those things. Try losing your country and then talk to me. Or at least try to put yourself in their shoes. Someone else overtook your country. Destroyed your homes. Took away your civil rights. Collective punishment. Oppression. Etc etc etc then we'll see how the people of the US will behave. Until then, you have no right to condemn their actions. Two state solution. A true two state solution. Don't give me any of that Gaza being freed crap, either. They're far from free. Hamas is a horrible organization. The things they do are evil. I'm man enough to admit it, but you ain't man enough to admit that occupying someone else's land is illegal. Every single thing the Israelis tell you, you eat it up, without a single shred of evidence. They tell you 80% of the Palestinians that died are militants, you buy that. They tell you Iran is supplying Hamas with weapons, you buy that. They tell you they didn't use white phosphorus on Gaza during the last siege, you buy that, even though you seen it for yourself on television. They bulldoze homes and say those homes belong to militants, you buy that. You do more shopping than Black Friday shoppers. In the end, the Palestinians are the ones dying by the boatload and you still only see Israeli casualties. You talk about killing people indiscriminately, they do the same, only difference is they have a cute term for it, "collateral damage". As if they deaths meant less. Give me a break!

Murder is murder. It doesn't matter to me who's doing the killing, or how. In the end, it's still a sin. I don't condone any shape or form of Violence. The reality is FAR more Palestinians are dying than the other way around. Can't argue with the facts. If you don't want to speak to me anymore, I understand. We strongly disagree with each other and that won't change, because I stand by my beliefs.

No one milks the sympathy card like the Jews. And I mean no one. You would have seen the damage if there was any, but there wasn't. I'm going to get biblical on you, now, because you may be able to argue with me, but it's a lot tougher to argue with the words of God. Does, "an eye for an eye" ring a bell with any of you? Well, 100+ deaths vs 5 is far from that. So go ahead, side with Israel's "self defense" excuse, but ask yourself this, does God agree? I think not. Go ahead and forsake your religion for the Israelis, because it makes you sleep better at night. Most of you on this forum think real life is like the movies. It always has to be good vs bad. Evil vs the righteous. Heroes vs Villains. In reality it doesn't always work that way. In this situation (Hamas vs Israel), IMO, it's villain vs villain. The only real victims are the civilians, on both sides.

Gailey's got to be the worst coach in the NFL. How in the world do you punt the ball away with 3+ minutes left in the game on the opposition's side of the field? Our defense gave up third down after third down and yet he's still confident in his defense to get the stop. On top of all that, Fitzy throws an INT that Stevie J saves and we follow that with three passes in a row? Who do you think you have back there? Tom Brady? Gailey, you're a F'in joke. Can't wait till you're dismissed. Now for Fitzy, why don't you do us all a favor and ask to be released. You're not a NFL quarterback. You miss wide open receivers, can't hit the deep ball consistently enough and you can't even throw a freakin' screen pass. You SUCK!!! I hate you more than words can say. This team might actually be a great team when we get a QB that is at least serviceable.

Just because they tell you these are Fajr 5's or Qassam's doesn't necessarily make it true. I believe my eyes, not the headlines. The damage done to Israel was minuscule after over 1000 rockets was launched towards them. That's all the proof I need. I'm going to steal a line from Dave Chapelle, "you can call me Pessimist Prime".

LOL

That's what I'm talking about. Young men threw stones at Israelis, Israelis in turn fire back with assault rifles. Now I'm not saying the Israelis should pick up stones and throw them back, but still, the crime doesn't fit the punishment. Can you imagine the uproar if the same thing happened here?

That's because his is a lot more slammable. Who has more of motive to lie?

Consider the source. Here's another tidbit: The White House focus on Israel this week comes as Romney prepares to visit Jerusalem. The presumptive Republican nominee is a critic of Obama's policy toward Israel and has promised to ramp up U.S. aid to the Jewish state, although Obama officials say the administration already provides record levels of funding.

http://m.upi.com/story/UPI-82721024445587/

Wrong on all counts. As a matter of fact Peres just said today that Obama has given more financial aide to Israel than any other president. Hamas was funded by the Israelis, look it up.

What can I say, I was cursed at birth. Born-n-raised in Buffalo, NY with parents from Palestine. One thing we share in common is we both know how to take a hit, wipe ourselves off and get hit again and again and again...lol

You're right. They don't use WMDs on Palestinians. I shouldn't have said that. I take it back. But they do have WMDs.

I gotta go. The fam is watching X-Factor. Have a happy Thanksgiving. Peace and prosperity to the world. There's a lot to be thankful for today. Cease fire was a good way to start off tomorrow's festivities. Good night to all.

Yeah, it's psycho schit. There aren't any Jewish/Israeli lobbyists in DC. And the Israelis don't use WMDs on Palestine. We develop them, give them to Israel and the Palestinians are the lab rats. BTW. Re-read the bolded part. Maybe something might sink into brain.

They would've showed us the damage on CNN. No one plays the sympathy card like the Israelis. FACT. Granted, the Palestinians are a close second! LOL!

Yes I am. I love this country and would never leave. I love the people, too. There isn't a better place on earth as far as I'm concerned. That doesn't mean I have to agree with our foreign policy. Having said that, my parents are Palestinians and I also love it there and would love to see a Palestinian state in my lifetime.