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EJ Manuel, a first round pick, is looking worse than his two undrafted backups. I have full confidence in this team to engineer a few more vintage Bills losses before the end of the year.

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Yes...

Ahh yes, another exceptional choice.

^^ My God, how could I forget the Pats SNF flex game...I still have nightmares of Randy Moss torching Greer repeatedly.

bump of peace

Most disappointing/infuriating/heartbreaking losses in the seemingly never-ending 14 year stretch since the Bills were last a relevant team? I have some good ones that I'd like to share: 1) Week 17 loss to Pittsburgh at the Ralph (2004) - the only winning season this team has had since '99, we had a Steelers team that was resting most of their starters coming into our home stadium with a playoff spot on the line. In typical Bills fashion, they suffer an embarrassing loss to a team full of mostly backups, and go on to miss the playoffs in hilarious fashion. This is by far the most gut wrenching loss of this terrible stretch of irrelevant football for me, as I was all but penciling them in for a wildcard matchup...I remember this game being Willie Parker's coming out party, as he torched a Bills defense that was regarded as a solid unit at the time. Just an all around "epic fail" of a game for long suffering Bills fans. 2) The Monday Night Miracle against Dallas - I don't even remember the year; this was the game where a no-name defense led b the likes of George Wilson and John DiGiorgio had multiple picks against a Dallas team that was considered elite heading in. Leading for most of the game, and with the entire country sans the population of the state of Texas hoping to see a Cinderella win, Buffalo did what Buffalo always does, and gave the game away at the end, in front of a national audience no less. Once again the the Bills are the proverbial butt of everyone's jokes, and it had to happen against the team that embarrassed us in consecutive Super Bowls years prior. *sigh* 3) The Monday Night Miracle in the season opener against New England - I once again forget exactly the year, hard to differentiate when all of the losing and mediocrity seems to glue together as one giant pile of wreaking failure. Once again the Bills found themselves as the giant underdog and media darlings as they were plugging away against an elite Patriots team in their own building, only for a mind blowing gaffe by Leodis McKelvin and subsequent defensive collapse to inevitably occur, resulting in, yet another, gut wrenching and utterly embarrassing loss on national television. Against our arch-rival, a team that seemingly never loses to us, no less. Oh joy. This game will always be remembered by myself, at least, for the trashing of McKelvin's front lawn the next day. Stay classy, Bills fans. 4) Season opener @ the Jets last season - this one really stung, which is surprising because at this point I had already grown numb to the constant letdown of being a Buffalo Bills fan. But that year, highlighted by the Mario Williams and Mark Anderson signings, had Bills Nation excited and touted by many media heads and NFL analysts as a potential playoff team. The Jets were the benchmark, a team we HAD to beat; a team we needed to have a statement victory against. Most naive Bills fans, including yours truly, were overly confident heading into this Week 1 matchup, and expected to see the Bills roll the clown show that was the NY Jets. Could we have been more wrong? Instead, our good ol' Bills were beat up, spit on, and left for dead by their division rivals. This game was over before halftime. A game highlighted by Mark Sanchez doing his best Dan Marino impression and torching the Bills' hapless secondary, highlighted by a long touchdown for their rookie 2nd round receiver Stephen Hill, who outclassed our 1st round rookie, Stephon Gilmore multiple times throughout the game. Also notable were a season ending injury to reliable possession receiver David Nelson (never played another down as a Bill) and Fred Jackson (after an arguable cheapshot by Landry). This one really stung. Honorable mentions: White out disaster against the Jets (was that last year or two years ago?), most recent white out disaster against KC (Tuel's goal line INT just another laughable Bills moment to add to the memory bank), and the 6-3 loss to the Browns (or was it a win? does it really matter?) which could quite possibly go down as the worst game played in NFL history. Oh yea, and that brutal Stevie drop against PITT, how could I forget

I just love how Bills fans consistently underrate the Jets; a team that regularly punches us in the face by the way. EJ played a horrific game in the first matchup, and got punished by their D-line to boot. Oh and by the way, they have the #1 rush defense in the NFL...they certainly have the horses to neutralize CJ and Fred. Why anyone thinks that game is a sure win is beyond me.

I hate this franchise.

I have been unimpressed with EJ; yea, I get it. He's a rookie with a rookie coaching staff, etc. This is a QB driven league. In my opinion if an elite QB prospect is available in the first you select him because QB takes precedence over every other position on the team. Through 5 games there has not been a single moment where I thought of EJ as a franchise QB, and I liked the pick, for the record.

Jeff Tuel sure looks good against 3rd string defenses and players who won't have a job in the NFL in a few weeks. If things don't pan out with football at least he'll have a job as this message board's blowup doll.

The Bills are too irrelevant to even be considered on this list...we are the NFL's Siberia!

Yea...let's wait til the preseason is over before giving them nicknames and other such nonsense.

Its Week 2 of the preseason...lets see what Hughes and the rookie class can do when the games matter, before sipping the kool-aid you clowns.

Eh whatever.

Chip will be better because the Eagles are a far better organization than the Bills. /thread

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Lawson tipped the pass that was picked off by Butler.

Discuss.

The Buffalo Bills switched from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense for 2 years back to a 4-3 defense last year and now it looks like they will be going back to a 3-4 hybrid this year. This after signing Mario Williams to a $100 contract as a 4-3 defensive end. Now Mario is going to play a lot of outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense a position he doesn't like or want to play. Just another reason why the Bills continue to lose ever year. They cannot even find a defensive identity and stick with it nor do they have the players to play this 3-4 defense. The Bills have the worst linebackers in the league and now you need 4 to play a 3-4. Can you picture Mario Williams covering a back in coverage? It will remind you of Chris Kelsay when they tried to make a linebacker out of him. The Bills also signed another 4-3 defensive end in Anderson last year. Where is he going to play in a 3-4? Yes, I know the Bills will play some 4-3 defense but after signing Williams and Anderson to mega contracts these players will play part time or out of position. This team continues to be a joke under Buddy Nix's leadership as the record shows. This team will compete for the #1 pick in the draft next year which may not be a bad thing because they may have a chance to pick a franchise QB in 2014. Without a franchise QB for 17 years since Jim Kelly retired, no wide receivers other than Stevie Johnson, no tight ends or linebackers this team will win 4 games this year. There isn't enough free agents or draft choices to save this team this coming year. Now somebody get me a god damn drink.

You sound like one of the idiots that call in to Schopp and Bulldog and proceed to get lambasted

You guessed it. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Before everyone gets there jollys that Fitz is tied for lead in passing TDs. Even though 3 came in garbage time against the Jets and the other 5 against sh*tty teams. He is 27th in passing yards. Guys ahead of him include Ryan Tannehill, Bradon Weeden, Jake Locker, Mark Sanchez, etc. If he did not have that garbage time against the Jets he probably would be last. The key to this season is division games. With a huge one coming up on Sunday. We can't go 1-5 like we did last year in divison. I will change my tune when we start winning against good teams.

This is not an overreaction/homer thread. I'm as critical of this team as anyone on this board. But, CJ Spiller is the real deal and I feel that he is already an elite back in this league. We NEED to build this offense around him and feed him the rock 20+ times a game. When Freddy returns, keep Spiller as the bell cow and use Fred as the 3rd down/short yardage back. He is beasting right now, need to ride him while he's hot and this team can go places this season. Most importantly of all, running keeps the ball out of Fitz's hands, which is paramount to our success this year.

Talley sounds real butthurt. It's not like the guy was Lawrence Taylor or some other uber well-known player. He's Darryl !@#$in Talley. Cry me a river then build a bridge and get over it