Georgia Bill

I think you've got what his stance will be about right. It could take the sting out of anything else that would come out thereafter. At any rate, further back it showed that the report said that three of the balls measured as expected due to plain old temp drop, and that the rest had some unaccounted additional pressure drops. So what we're probably talking about is balls that were a tad under, after you account for temp drop. Not really a big deal, and I doubt that we see a Brady suspension. This is more of a slap on the wrist type situation. Although here in our little Bills world, in the offseason this should be good for about a 100 page thread

What he said

1 Bills Fan, When Cassel wins the starting job and takes us to the playoffs this year, this photo will be the last thing on your mind. Take a chill pill and enjoy the ride.

We have approached the vulva, but our position cannot yet be called deep.

yawn

I think Cassel's going to surprise all the naysayers. Here's hoping he's our Jim Plunkett!

Whether McCoy is used to a blocking fullback or not, the Felton signing should at least mean some holes get opened for him. Shades of Braxton?

You mean like the second half of the Colts playoff game when the balls were properly inflated, the weather sucked and they pancaked the Colts 28-0? Gosh I don't know how they'd manage in bad weather

What he has that you can't measure is heart, and he has it in abundance. Gotta see Freddie in the red white and blue this fall!

I was thinking the same thing. Course if you make that decision and lose you'd never hear the end of it.

I thought that was odd. It was almost like he was saying we don't have a prayer of getting a game tying FG so instead of calling timeouts, our whole game is going to be based on a stop here. A stop that quite frankly, was not going to be likely with Beast mode coming (and more than one crack at it).

They're a brash bunch, and I think it just blew their minds as they went from a "we just won this thing" to a holy crap we were just robbed of our win, in seconds. Still no excuse.

Especially when you've got Lynch. Holy crap their fans are probably losing their minds.

Best super bowl ever! Patriots basically lose (again) on a once in a million catch, then tragedy instead strikes Seattle w the pick. Wow!!!

Ballsy move - paid off for the Hawks - great game!

Exactly - he belittles deflategate because it's a joke. The fact that most Bills fans on this board have got their panties in a wad about it is embarassing.

Funny (and gross) - definately worth the watch!

Always liked Wade. Here's hoping him success - except against us of course!

New England 31 Seattle 17

This is it in a slightly large nutshell. It’s science, but it’s not rocket science. From the NBC Sports article on pressure drop due to temperature: “The folks at SportsScience addressed this issue in 2010. A ball exposed to 10-degree temperatures for an hour, the pressure drops from 13.5 PSI to 11 PSI.” Assuming that was a drop from 70 degrees to 10 degrees, then a 60 degree drop = 2.5 PSI drop, which is approximately 0.4 PSI per 10 degree change. From the University of Toronto Physicist quoted in this thread: “Morris arrived at his conclusion based on this example: a 30C (86F) refs locker-room temperature, a 0C (32F) field temperature and a 13 PSI initial pressure-gauge reading. Only such a wide temperature difference yields as much as a 2-PSI pressure drop, he said.” He’s saying a 54 degree drop (from 86 degrees to 32 degrees) = 2 PSI drop, which is also approximately 0.4 PSI per 10 degree change. Now on to how this all plays out: Belichick says their ball prep rubbing process increases pressure by about 1 PSI. From the above, for about 1 PSI you need to increase internal ball temp by 20 to 25 degrees. Balls with 20 degree internal temp rise provided to refs. They set them to 12.5 PSI, per Pats request. At half time, the internal temps are down 45 degrees (-25 degrees or -1 PSI due to the ball prep effect, and another -20 degrees or -0.8 PSI due to the temp drop from 70 degrees inside to 50 degrees at half time). So they measure 10.7. That is 1.8 PSI “low” and close enough to the stated 2 PSI, given the limits of PSI measurement accuracy. So what about the Colts balls? Suppose they ask for them to be set at 13.5 PSI by the Refs. But they don’t do any ball prep. 13.5 pregame. At halftime, internal ball temp is down 20 degrees only or -0.8 PSI. So they measure 12.7. To the refs “no issue with Colts footballs”. If you who have debated this for so long don’t want to spend the time to understand this simple math, how long is the public going to care about it? The only issue is if the Pats football rub process could raise the temp by 20 to 25 degrees. If not, they are liars. If so, this all is explained away by simple boring math.

OK. Here is the order that explains 1.5 lbs (not 2 though): 1 Patriots super rub the balls, increasing their temp (and the air temp inside) which raises PSI by one pound (per hoodie). For the sake of argument say they measure 13.5 lbs then. 2 Balls are immediately given to officials who find them to measure 13.5, and they deflate them to 12.5 (as requested by Pats) 3 That is the last time balls are normally measured (as best I can tell from what has been stated) 4 If those same balls were just left at room temp for a couple hours, they would cool down and measure 11.5 5 If they go out into 50 degree weather, they drop another half pound to 11 PSI. The above is not that hard to understand, although many here seem to be struggling with it. For myself, I think the things at odds with the above, that need to be clarified are: a) Can the vigorous rubbing actually increase the air pressure by 1 PSI (basically the process needs to generate enough heat to do it)? b) If it can, how long could that extra 1 PSI hold - and could the Pats get those balls to the refs fast enough that it did hold (hoodie said that is part of their normal game day process) Bill Nye is full of sh*t when he says the only thing that can deflate a football is a needle. Dropping internal air temp also drops PSI, and he should be smart enought to know that. I drove from AZ into a cold CO one day and was surprised to find all my tires at mid 20 PSI. It's a fact. The only things in question to me are a and b above.

You're right, I just read the whole transcript.

OK, I read the whole transcript and he did indeed say they do not heat the balls or put them into a dryer. So he is sticking by his statement that "rubbing" the balls to prep them causes them to rais PSI by one lb. Bill Nye says no can do. Somebody should do the experiment to see.

Belichick said "We simulated a game day situation in terms of the preparation of the football and where the footballs were at various points in time during the day, or night, as the case was Sunday. I would say that our preparation process for the footballs is what we do. I can’t speak for anybody else. It’s what we do. That process, we have found raises the PSI [pounds per square inch] approximately one pound. That process of creating a tackiness, a texture — the right feel, whatever that feel is, it’s just a sensation for the quarterback, what’s the right feel. That process elevates the PSI approximately one pound based on what our study showed, which was multiple footballs, multiple examples in the process, as we would do for a game. When the footballs are delivered to the officials locker room, the officials were asked to inflate them to 12.5 PSI. What exactly they did, I don’t know. But for the purposes of our study, that’s what we did. We set them at 12.5. That’s at the discretion of the official, though." I think it is going to come out that "our preparation process" is what is going to come under scrutiny. My guess is that in order to "prepare" 12-24 balls (whatever it is), they put the balls in a large tumbler - to rub them up and give them the tackiness & feel that the QB likes. It wouldn't surprise me that the tumbler they use is an industrial sized clothes dryer. It would explain everything. They may have been doing it for years. Innocently or with ill-intent that is the question, but THAT will be impossible to prove.

Belichick said "We simulated a game day situation in terms of the preparation of the football and where the footballs were at various points in time during the day, or night, as the case was Sunday. I would say that our preparation process for the footballs is what we do. I can’t speak for anybody else. It’s what we do. That process, we have found raises the PSI [pounds per square inch] approximately one pound. That process of creating a tackiness, a texture — the right feel, whatever that feel is, it’s just a sensation for the quarterback, what’s the right feel. That process elevates the PSI approximately one pound based on what our study showed, which was multiple footballs, multiple examples in the process, as we would do for a game. When the footballs are delivered to the officials locker room, the officials were asked to inflate them to 12.5 PSI. What exactly they did, I don’t know. But for the purposes of our study, that’s what we did. We set them at 12.5. That’s at the discretion of the official, though." I think it is going to come out that "our preparation process" is what is going to come under scrutiny. My guess is that in order to "prepare" 12-24 balls (whatever it is), they put the balls in a large tumbler - to rub them up and give them the tackiness & feel that the QB likes. It wouldn't surprise me that the large tumbler they use is an industrial sized clothes dryer. It would explain everything. A heated, tumbled ball that is set to 12.5 PSI shortly thereafter would easily drop 1 to 1.5 PSI once all the heat effect wore off (depending on game temps). They may have been doing it for years. Innocently or with ill-intent that is the question, but THAT is one that will be impossible to prove.