Georgia Bill

I'd hate to see him playing for the Pats, because he'd probably be super motivated and help make sure they beat us twice. Though it seems that story never changes anyway. If he did play for them and won a Super Bowl, I'd be glad that Shady got a ring. There is absolutely no reason to diss him.

Like most here, I grew up in the Buffalo area (Kenmore/Town of Tonawanda) but lived for about 5 years in Dallas in the early 80's. In 1984 the 0-11 Bills were playing the mighty Cowboys. I proudly wore my Bills shirt to the down home country boy breakfast joint, and got a lot of stares, some chuckles. Oh what a joyous day when we won, against all odds! Living in Atlanta area the last 29 years but will always be a Bills fan!

He was targeted 6 times and caught 0. On the last one you could see Brady look right at him and let out an expletive. I thought then that he's not going to throw to him again. His contract is up, and he only caught 35 passes in the regular season. While he was surprisingly important in last years Super Bowl and made a fantastic one hand grab against KC, I'm still thinking when you disappoint in the Super Bowl, Belichick (and Brady) are going to remember it. If I recall on most of those targets he was thoroughly blanketed - and the passes weren't all that great, but I suspect he's going to bear the brunt of it and be somewhere else next year.

The success that Brady and the Patriots have had is just unreal. 9 Super Bowls in 17 years. Brady's been in more than half the Super Bowls that happened since he's been a starter. Unbelievable. I know he says he is not going to retire but I do think that was his last Super Bowl. Gisele is going to convince him to retire.

If you want character players, you damn sure don't take the one who put a full body force, totally uncalled for diving hit into the neck of one of our players while he was laid out defenseless on the ground. And with his brace used as a weapon no less. Not just no, hell no.

I'd like to see Wade Philips, Rams DC get another ring. Also contrary to most here, I think it would be good for the Patriots to win. For only one reason - I feel pretty sure Brady would then retire - going out on top. If he doesn't win it he's just going to keep playing, trying to get that 6th ring

That was 3 damn sweet plays!!!

D must win it for us now

They will

Peternan to the wall of shame

I'd vote no to the trade. We have to hold onto some semblance of loyalty/team chemistry, and faith in management, in order to be able to pull this thing out of the fire in as short a time as possible. McCoy takes some pressure off the budding Allen. Take him away and the whole thing could crumble. Draft picks, whether 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round, are all hypothetical future "wins" for the team, but often they don't pan out well and are thus just gambles. We'll be ok with the draft picks we have, no need to further decimate or gamble with what would happen to the current team.

Time for an awesome holy sh!t Josh Allen drive to win the game! It could happen...

They'll write it off to Minnesota looking past us to their matchup with the Rams Thursday night. Whatever... HUGE win for the Bills!!!

Half ain't over yet

Nothing about this stunner in the top news leads for todays games in progress on NFL.com home page. ?

Is McDermott the D-C (calling the plays)?

John McCain I know this has little to do with this thread, but it seems he practiced this move for his health care vote. No disrespect intended.

If he keeps this up they have to keep him as starter. I'll be rooting for him. Go Fitz! Gotta have a lil Swagger if you're a Buccaneer

Because no one has the benefit of hindsight at the time of the draft. Unlike posters ?

I miss Tyrod too. He can make a mediocre offensive line look halfway decent. He extends plays due to his mobility, and rarely throws interceptions. Say what you will, but without him we would not have snapped the playoff drought last year. And he also did not "lose the game" today for the Browns. I wish him the best of luck, and will be cheering for him to do well in Cleveland. I think he was underappreciated.

All the "Allen should start" hype came crashing back to reality today. As mentioned above he's not going to make a bad line look great. I totally agree that Peterman looks like our best bet for now to start. I am still a little worried that even he will end up on his backside too often with this O-line, but we are what we are at this point. Here's hoping that they start to gel (vs the jello we've been seeing).

I wonder how often these kind of deals for the QB's act as a de-motivator for other players. They might feel that if they are valued so much less maybe they shouldn't try quite so hard. When morale starts to slip, there is not a lot a QB can do about it, no matter how good he is. Of course on the other hand there are probably a lot of players (most?) who realize the best way for them to ensure getting paid as much as they can for as long as they can is to play really good ball. Doing so on a team that is consistently a winner is even better for them.

The issue with starting a guy too soon is, if he has a horrible few games, the haters will come out and tear him (and the decision to draft him) to shreds. That easily could happen when a kid from the country and a small school all of a sudden finds himself in the big city NFL media glare. I think that can screw with a guy's confidence, and mess up his game, at least for a while. And frankly, I don't see too many on this board having much patience before they start circling like sharks. It might be best for him to ease into this with some playing time, but not carrying the burden of the starter for a while. Also, frankly, we might be pleasantly surprised with what AJ can do for us in the interim.

Here's what I envision. Every time Allen has a bad game, we are going to be reminded that "we should have taken Rosen". It is going to go on for years, and it is going to get old. Here's hoping he can help us climb the big mountain and win a Super Bowl because honestly that's the only way I see the grumbling coming to an end. Sad.

Sooner or later the odds have to work in your favor. Let's hope its this time. Welcome to Buffalo Josh!