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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
Joe's comments here are spot on. For those that can't read the whole post:
He’s exactly right. And saying “let me finish!” when nobody was interrupting him.
Beane sounded shook not confident.
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1 minute ago, Brandon said:
For him to come out immediately like that makes me wonder about the WR discussion inside the FO and whether there's been some heated arguments there, too.
I mean for example, hypothetically of course, if I'm Joe Brady and I just invested hundreds of hours grinding film on WR prospects and meeting with them and advocating for them - all for nothing, because hey, idiots, we're set at WR don't you know - maybe I'd rather have known that in advance so I could spend more time with my family? Few things in life are worse than having your bosses waste your time.
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Maybe next time they should play on Beane's side of the field and ask him why his staff is so bad at evaluating DL talent that they have to spend millions in free agency and heavy-weight their draft picks there every single offseason.
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23 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
In 2018, Ole Miss had as their receiving corps AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Dawson Knox, Elijah Moore(!), and some guy named Demarkus Lodge who had 65 catches. Their QB had the highest passing-yards-per-game average in the nation too. Yet they managed to go 5-7. To be fair, their defense was atrocious (113th out of 130 teams in points allowed).
Maybe Beane should've just calmly thrown out that fact and then turned off his mic...
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His players gave him an A+ in the most recent NFLPA poll, one of six coaches to get a top grade.
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Again, just a terrible look by Beane. I know it's en vogue to attack the media these days but it rarely works. Saying over and over again "I don't watch your show" while he's calling in to complain about the "bitching" on the show is, at best, thin-skinned and at worst duplicitous.
Beane has no room for error now - there are zero excuses for the defense to underperform in 2025 given the offseason investments, and now there's also ZERO excuses for the offense to underperform now that Beane pulled this stunt. Zero. They'd better maintain a fully healthy OL all season, and aim to turn the ball over a league-low 8 times or less again in 2025, at a minimum. And that's just to keep the status quo.
Remember when Donahoe attacked the fans? He got summarily canned. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beane apologize within 24-48 hours.
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Beane is so full of crap.
He's the one who went into a STACKED WR draft last year and took only one, after trading down twice.
He's the one who was scrambling to trade for a WR1 in the middle of the season last year - guess what, the fans were right that they were understaffed heading into the season.
He's the one setting up numerous top-30 meetings with WR prospects then not drafting them.
He's the one who already seems to be drafting replacements/contingency plans for two of his high picks last year (Bishop and Carter). For the price of one of them (Bishop) he likely could've traded up for Brian Thomas.
And Beane is the one who is now shopping on the WR market (see Elijah Moore) after telling the media and fans to "quit their bitching."
Again, he's full of crap.
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4 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:
Tired of the WR debate… so annoying
So go golfing and let us discuss it.-
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12 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:
Except in money situations like the playoffs. I also agree with the poster above, about what the element of treat does for the offense.
I personally think it's because Beane doesn't consider it a position that they are particularly strong at scouting. This is based on passed press conferences, where he has discussed, how immensely difficult to scout that position. Some of the best organizations, have struggled with the WR position. NE during the Brady era, Baltimore, and even most recently the Eagles.
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11 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
Yes I don’t want to root for a rapist.
Reckless posting.-
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Have to assume they have some positive intel on this guy from all of the scouting and backchanneling they clearly did with the Kentucky program.
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1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:
I mean I don’t necessarily disagree with you. I just think that they believe the offense is set this year and the defense needed a complete overhaul and they were right in that sense. I always thought they would take 3 DL and 2 DBs in this class and I was wrong they took 3 so I understand the line of thinking that those two groupings needed an overhaul and they used the strength of the draft to hopefully achieve that goal.
They need Coleman to take a leap and they need Kincaid to get back to form of his rookie season if not better or they’ll be spending another 3rd rounder week 6 for a weapon
But your theory does not explain why they did so much work on receivers leading up to the draft.-
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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Deone Walker was the biggest swing Beane made to potentially turn our DL into what Philly had last year.
Theres a reason we had to trade all the way up to 109 to jump Philly for him.
If the back issues persist.. the move is a flop and the guy we get is what Joe Marino hated on film last year. A stiff, top-heavy big DT that is largely unproductive at the NFL level.
If the back issues heal up and the Bills bet correct on his medicals.. we have a Jalen Carter type player. Look at his ‘23 film. It’s insane.
I think that’s exactly right. Philly last year proved again what Gettleman taught Beane years ago - keep taking swings at DL and if you hit on one or two, you can flip the field in your direction.-
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
I think it is a bit the result of Brandon not having a scouting background. He doesn't have a "type" at positions the way guys who have been around it for years have. Their type at DB is dictated by McDermott's specifications. They have developed a type at OL only since Kromer arrived. Tremaine Edmunds was Leslie Frazier's type of middle linebacker. When Dennison was here they wanted big bodied receivers. Then Dabes wanted shiftier route runners. Then Dorsey wanted guys to run down the field. Brady wants YAC guys.
I get it. You have to get players that fit what your coaches want. And Beane is good at that and because he is good at that is probably why he has so few true busts. But how much does his own evaluation skill show on the roster? I'm not sure much. He is a good leader, a good strategic roster builder. But I don't think on pure talent evaluation he is a top 15 GM. It is the other qualities that make him a top 10 guy overall.
Completely agree. Beane is a CEO-style GM and I suspect he relies on his various lieutenants to advocate for their own individual silos. You’ve got a defense-oriented HC who devotes most of his time to that side of the ball and you’ve got a green OC on offense. They’ve basically admitted Allen was plugging for the Coleman pick last year and now this year is staying out of it - take that for what you will but it was notable that they spent a lot of time with Xavier Worthy and seemed to really like him and then went ahead and let their rival have him perhaps so they could draft Allen’s preferred guy. And now Allen has promised to go golfing during the draft prep and let the scouts run the show. My point is - yes, very unclear who Beane is even listening to on that side of the ball when it comes to draft strategy.-
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3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I just assume that they love Hancock. They knew they would miss out on whomever they did when they took him and they did it anyway. Hawes is not really exciting, but seems like the last TE and they valued that over some of the receivers. At the end of the day it seems like they just didn’t value the WRs in this draft the same way some of us do here.
I continue to think it’s something different: they trust their own abilities to evaluate certain positions more than others. They felt they needed to come out of this draft with players who will become starters and they KNOW they know how to evaluate DBs and blockers. They also must like their ability to evaluate d linemen though their track record there isn’t quite as good (but perhaps they are leaning on the new coaches there). They may feel far less confident in their ability to evaluate WRs and felt they couldn’t afford to lose out on the sure thing upgrades to the roster.And honestly can anyone here explain what it is the Bills value and are looking for at the receiver position?
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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I give it a B- to C+. I liked the 1st couple of days. I thought that it represented pretty good value and fill some needs. I would have been at B to B+ through Friday.
I didn’t love the job yesterday. Walker is huge but flawed. If his lousy 2024 was because of a back injury only, cool. I don’t suspect that though. For as big as he is, he is top heavy and plays high. It’s not a bad gamble at that point but he isn’t a lock to even make the team IMO. He’s a high ceiling low floor guy.
They brought something like 11 WRs in that ran sub 4.4. McDermott and Beane both have said, they need to be able to threaten the field vertically. Yesterday was the perfect chance to do that with most of those guys still on the board. They had the ammo, and had already addressed their other 3 needs (starting caliber CB, rotational DT, and another rotational DL regardless of position). They didn’t accomplish that.
There were a few times that it felt like they got sniped yesterday (Tory Horton and Pooh Paul come to mind). With the amount of draft capital yesterday and lack of available roster spots, that shouldn’t have happened. They should have overpaid, if needed, to fill the remaining needs or get players that we know they liked (ie Paul). They didn’t need to preserve picks to draft a Lee Smith clone or a 3rd corner. I would have rather taken a punter for example.
It was an okay draft IMO. It was better at the top than as it went along which I normally don’t think of with Beane drafts. If those 3 can play it has a chance to be better than b-/c+. 🍻
This is where I’m at. I like the haul, but question the Day 3 strategy. They simply lack the same urgency on offense that they have with the defense - the times when Beane aggressively “goes and gets his guy” are nearly always for a defensive player. I know he traded up for Kincaid but they need to do more of it. They just lack urgency and proactivity when it comes to the offensive side of the ball and I think it’s because how they’re structured as an organization - they are a defense-focused group and they trust their ability to evaluate players on that side of the ball. But it’s frustrating.-
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McGinn’s 10th-rated CB:
Often overshadowed in a secondary that included free safety Caleb Downs, strong safety Lathan Ransom and cornerback Denzel Burke. “When it came down to it he was kind of the glue, he and the safety from Alabama (Downs),” one scout said. “He might ultimately end up playing better than their other two corners (Burke, Ole Miss transfer Davison Igbinosun). I think his talent level will take him a long way because he’s smart and he’s a leader. He played nickel for them but probably should have been starting outside to keep him on the field more. He’s a jack of all trades and he could be the master of all of them. He has no problem covering guys outside or taking on linemen and making tackles.” Clocked a solid 40 at pro day to go with a vertical jump of 41 ½, best among the corners. “He was their best corner,” a second scout said. “He’s more ball denial than interception but he has the ability to play the ball. He can play nickel, safety, any position in the secondary. Athletic, good tackler, great feet, can run, strong, smart, great hips. Like him in press and off coverage. Little bit inconsistent to shed blocks. If he’s in the box as a nickel he can get pushed around a little bit. He’s dynamite.” Missed the first six games of 2022 with a hamstring injury. Started 23 of 41 games over four years, finishing with 98 tackles, three picks and 14 passes defensed. “I just like the way he handles his body and the way he moves around,” said a third scout. “He was a position leader. I’d say he’s probably third day, fourth or fifth round.” Rated as the No. 4 corner in the U.S. coming out of Suwanee, Ga., in 2021.
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Please don’t nerd-derail this thread.
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Just now, Simon said:
I hope Jordan Phillips invested wisely
Yeah he is really the same guy but younger.-
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From Bob McGinn:
Said one scout: “He’s as big as they come. In the trenches you’ve got to play with some type of leverage. He just stands up way too often and gets pushed around a little too much. It’s still a big man’s game and he has some ability when he wants to. He just needs the right environment. He’ll probably end up in Philly and be great.”
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Is someone really arguing in this thread that Jordan Davis is the reason the Eagles won the Super Bowl????
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Ayomanor still available yes?
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Bob McGinn’s 8th-ranked EDGE:
Played five games at LSU in 2021 before starting 31 of 37 games for the Razorbacks from 2022-’24. “Tough guy, brings energy,” one scout said. “Not that athletic for an edge. Little bit upright and rigid. At the point of attack he’s too high. Doesn’t have that leverage, but he fights. If he can get his long arms on you he has a chance. Angle blocks get him just because of the body frame. As a rusher, he uses his hands really well but just isn’t explosive getting around the edges. Big, tough, smart. There’s a role for him. He’ll never be a star or a top talent, but the type guy that will make other people around him look better.” His vertical jump of 40 ½ led the edges. Arms were 33 ¼, hands were 10. “He’ll be a functional starter,” said a second scout. “Not a bad bender. Good strength. Uses his hands and length really well. Stiff in change of direction. Just average speed. Sometimes it looks like he’s running in place. Hands and feet don’t always work together. Just more of an effort guy as a pass rusher. Better against the run. He’s a big base left defensive end.” Finished with 116 tackles (28 for loss), 16 sacks and five passes defensed. Dominated Alabama A&M tackle Carson Vinson in the Senior Bowl game. “He’ll check off every box as a human being and the measurables,” a third scout said. “He’s sort of stiff, but with his numbers he might go first round. You’re getting a tightly-wound defensive end who plays hard and can cover some ground.” Four-star recruit from Texarkana, Texas.
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Looks like he’s straight out of the House of Harkonnen.
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Brandon Beane on WGR
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You showing up in thread after thread just to whine about the thread is old and annoying.