Coach Tuesday

He threw the football like he was throwing a dart in a bar. How's that?

It was a potato chip bag.

Remember when he threw you out of the stadium for wearing a paper bag over your head? And then it turned out we were all better off when you had a paper bag over your head?

Obviously you didn't read the "deep dive" with Trubisky.

Exactly. Also not a lie.

“EJ, we have high hopes for him. We know, and he knows, there is a lot of work ahead for him to become the franchise player we all want him to be. He’s harder on himself than anyone and he wants to be great. It’s our job to help surround him with the resources and patience to help him become great. At the same time, and EJ will be the first to tell you this, we’re in a results business and no one on this roster or in this entire organization - myself included - should feel complacent with where they are. We all have to work harder to become the best versions of ourselves and EJ is no exception. I believe he’s putting in the work to do just that and I’m excited to watch his career develop here. His best football is in front of him.”

We are gonna look back with amazement at the fact that this guy lasted to the end of the first round.

I mean that was literally a pre-recorded speech he gave to the Backers IIRC. If he now says he was lying, it’s called consumer fraud. Dude should just never speak to the media because he’s a moron with that stuff.

Did you recently take a “multimedia for seniors” course at the local Y? You’re meme and .gif skills suddenly seem greatly enhanced. 😁

So Whaley brazenly lied to the entire fanbase in his “IT Factor” speech? To induce fans to buy season tickets? Got it. Eff that guy.

Good for Hyde.

Yay?

Was on the fence about him until this thread.

The worst play in Bills’ history didn’t happen in a Bills game. It was Mo Lewis’s hit on Bledsoe. /thread

Well your best argument would be Joseph Addai. Why don't you make that argument instead of the arms-crossed "you can't change my mind with facts" position.

And "help improve the offense" is not enough justification for a first round pick when you factor in opportunity cost, salary cap, replaceability, etc.

And again: Lynch and Fornette did nothing to improve the win-loss records of the teams that actually drafted them (as we sadly found out). Gurley? Did his best years help the Jeff Fisher regime get past .500? Can you name an example of a first-round running back who played so well he got his team over the Super Bowl hump during his rookie contract and was then left to sign elsewhere for his second deal?

I read the thread. Your argument was "well then you can just let him go sign elsewhere because you've already won your Lombardi." THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED. It's one thing to discount previous examples as independent events - it's another thing to assert, without any support other than your gut instinct, that ETN is going to represent a statistical outlier the likes of which the NFL has never seen.

You did, but then you argued that previous results have no bearing on the future. And I don't see how the two positions square with each other.

But that's because a player's college or state don't have any measurable impact on their ability to perform in the NFL, usually (although there have been specific college programs, such as Mack Brown's Texas teams, that were universally bad at prepping players for being professionals). Whereas investing a premium pick on a non-premium position such as RB is a terrible cap management strategy for the many reasons already cited upthread. Your BEST CASE scenario is that ETN performs like CMC and (i) takes the ball out of Allen's hands; and (ii) requires a $15M/yr contract. Neither of those things are good for wins and losses. You pay a running back premium $$ you then have to justify it by tailoring your offense around him and that hasn't worked in the modern NFL. Let me ask you this: is it ever a good idea to spend a first round pick on a kicker or long-snapper? What if they're generationally good? The answer is, of course, no f'ing way. RB is not much different.

Sorry but that is complete nonsense. You can't look at drafting Etienne in Round 1 against other Round 1 RBs because they're completely independent events? No wonder you're bowing out of the discussion. That's just about the worst take I've ever seen.

No "dramatics." You've been invited to go back and look at the last three decades of RBs being drafted in the first round, especially picks 10-32 - the bust factor is extremely high. You've been asked to cite examples of specific 1st round backs the Bills passed on who would've helped the team win games. You've been invited to present statistical support for your take. You've declined all of this: "let me save you the trouble fellas, I'm gonna stick with my gut." Good for you, you're an American.

At least you're being honest. And you're not alone - this is pretty much where we are as a society in 2021: "I'm happy to listen to all of the evidence but I'm not going to let any of it change my gut opinion."

McDermott and Frazier don’t really put their CBs in position to give up that many TDs. Sherman may well have hit a wall, but unless his body is completely shot he would probably add value to this defense, certainly from a mental standpoint, if they could fit it financially.