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Thank you for that. I had been looking on Google to find info on when the Comp Formula ended during the Offseason and couldn't find it anywhere. So I just assumed it was 6/1, like the money changing deadline in contracts. If it's only a few days away, then it would make even less sense to do a 3.5+m signing right now. And the type of FA signing people were short sightedly hoping for or expecting from Beane's quick comment at the presser is going to be that.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! You're misreading into what I said. I don't know how you're getting all of that because I never said ANY of it. I was NOT saying the WR room is fine with my post and that we shouldn't add anyone else. What I was saying was that a few minutes after the Draft, Beane saying during a presser "we worked out a guy today we're going to end up signing" always implied it was someone who wasn't a name signing like a DJ Chark or someone along those lines. Like I said - healthy, productive just last season, name players don't "work out". And if they did do that, it wouldn't be on Draft Day. That's a situation of talking to assistants and being worked out by positional coaches with Beane not having time to meet with them and probably just reviewing a tape and taking others word that they're good. Someone we're paying millions to, Beane is going to dedicate some time to seeing in person and meeting with before committing publicly to signing them. It was clearly someone who is on the fringe, someone who needs to prove they're healthy, or someone who was out of football for a year or more for us to "work them out". In this case, it was the latter. Also, we've got like 3m in Cap Space right now. Someone like Chark or like him is going to cost more than that. Also, to do it now instead of a little over a month from now would cost us a Comp pick. So anything like that will come after June 1st or at least when the Comp qualifying contract deadline ends. And I do hope we look into adding someone at that point. My post was just to say that if you really analyzed the situation from all angles, thinking that statement meant it was going to be one of the name FA left was to be short sightedly setting yourself up for disappointment. It was obvious to me with what was said it was going to be something like this. But he doesn't preclude us from signing someone like a DJ Chark on or after 6/1 and I would expect that we would.

The phrase "we worked out a guy today" meant it was always going to be a Camp Body type guy. You don't "work out" healthy, still producing, name FA's. What sense does it make to sign Mack Hollins sight unseen and then decide that DJ Chark (or someone along those lines) has to prove themselves in a workout? And why would Beane bring in a DJ Chark on the Day of the Draft?

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And outside of 2022 in Las Vegas, in his 5 other years in the league - he averages 15 catches and 202 yards a year. He's more of a blocker (which is important) and Special Teams player (which was the focus of discussion in his Presser when we signed him) than a key contributor on Offense. If we're relying on Mack Hollins for a big role as a producer on Offense - that's an issue to me.

Claypool I could see having to be "worked out". His career is kind of nowhere and he really is in the "need to prove myself again" stage. Like I said, I just don't see a bigger named, healthier WR feeling like they need to do essentially a tryout or that we'd feel they'd need to workout for us.

I don't know that it's a bigger name. Maybe Thomas would be an exception to see what kind of shape he's in following ending the year on Injured Reserve and being injury plagued throughout the years. But when it comes to bigger name, healthy WR's who played last year and weren't injured like an Odell Beckham Jr., DJ Chark, Michael Gallup, or someone like that - you don't usually "work them out" or do a physical try out. "Working someone out" sounds like a smaller named, lower tier, compete for a roster spot type guy to me. I also wouldn't expect we'd be signing anyone with name value until 6/1. Reason being two fold: 1.) We only have about 3.5m right now and have to sign our Draft Picks (which won't be much but will still cut into that) and 2.) Signing one of the bigger names right now instead of a little over a month from now would likely be at a number that would cancel out one of our two projected Comp picks next season.

I view him as playing more Special Teams here. He'll get relief snaps off the bench and be depth in case of injury. But I view him in more of the Kumerow role for us. He'll probably get a little more snaps than Kumerow, but I don't want to be relying on Mack Hollins for much of a role on Offense - unless we have to.

A few things I disagree with here: - I don't see us keeping 5 OT's. The number is always 4. Either Grable beats out Collins or he'll be released and we'll try to get him back on the Practice Squad. As a Late-6th Round Pick and our 8th Draft Pick, he's more likely to be cut than safe. Everyone after the first 7 picks is essentially a UDFA that really has to earn their spot if in a crowded field (Hardy has the easiest path as they were 1 player thin there when we drafted him). - I don't see Toohill being released in favor of Jonathan. Jonathan lives on our Practice Squad and gets called up when we need him. While I like Jonathan, I think Toohill is the better player with more experience and production. There's a possibility we keep both, but if it comes down to it - I think it will be Toohill. - While I don't see us keeping 12 DL like last season, we'll be keeping more than 9. Specifically, I see us keeping 5 DT's (to go along with 5 DE's). DeShawn Williams will be here. - While Milano, Bernard, Williams, and Ulofoshio will be here, I'm not sure both Morrow and Spector will both be here. I think it will be one or the other. - I don't know if I see us signing a FA CB. I think we'll keep the 5 you listed. Cam Lewis was re-signed in large part for his flexibility to play both Safety and Corner. I think he'll be focusing on Safety. But if we have 2 CB's go down at either Boundary or Nickel, he'll come in there. Other than that - good stuff!

Tyler Boyd is a Pure Slot. We don't need a Slot. We've got Khalil Shakir, Curtis Samuel (with some Outside Flexibility, but always a much higher percentage Inside), and Dalton Kincaid (a Big Slot that only sometimes lines up with his hand on the line). We need another Boundary guy. The only true Outside guys we have there are Keon Coleman, Mack Hollins, and Justin Shorter. Shorter is a complete unknown and Hollins is more of a Blocker/Special Teams guy.

The time to yardage ratio in speed is interesting to me. Tee Higgins for example ran a 4.52 in the 40. Keon Coleman ran a 4.61. Yet when it came to the 10 yard split - Coleman ran it in 1.54 while Higgins ran it in 1.66. Subsequently, everyone's favorite WR Troy Franklin beat them both in the 40 by a good percentage at 4.41. But getting up to that top speed takes him longer than it does Coleman as he ran his 10 yard in 1.61. Some guys reach their top speed faster than others. Coleman while lacking in long end speed, he reaches that top speed quicker than both of them - which makes up for a lot, getting off the line quicker. While he ran a slow 40 - he was the fastest Gauntlet and ran it EXTREMELY smooth: Everyone's focusing on the 40. But there's much more to the story than that. His play speed is very good.

I mean no offense, but I wouldn't consider the players on your list simply being Drafted as being a "hit". I think most of us who did work on these guys could tell that the guys who were Drafted were going to be Drafted somewhere. I would count the "hits" as players being taken where you placed them. There's a disconnect between how you viewed a number of these prospects and how the league as a whole viewed them. A number of guys weren't Drafted near where you had them ranked - whether they were Drafted higher than you had them or lower than where you had them. Granted, teams have way more information than you and I do. Character, work ethic, and medical come into play just as much as the tape itself.

He's incorrect on a Comp Pick in the 6th. That was projected for Dane Jackson's contract with the Panthers but was cancelled out by the Curtis Samuel signing. What we're looking at right now from what we had, what we moved, projected comp picks (from Spotrac's Comp Guy - who reported on the Dane/Samuel cancellation), and what we've acquired is as follows: Round 1 Round 2 (from Minnesota via Houston for Diggs) Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 4 (from Chicago for 2024 5th) Round 4 (Projected Comp for Davis) Round 5 (Projected Comp for Floyd) Round 6 Round 6 (from NYG for Basham and 2025 7th)

I believe he's asking how many have made the 53. Not how many we signed or put on the Practice Squad.

Josh Allen said he watched a lot of Wide Receivers this offseason and that Keon Coleman was the guy he wanted to play with. If Josh thinks he's the guy that will work best with his style - that's all I need to hear.

Well, you know, unless you see them posting videos on TikTok and their Instagram Stories - it's impossible they're putting work in.

You'd think Josh Allen would have taught posters around here to not judge a Draft Pick before they've even played a down in the NFL. Setting yourself up for a potentially embarrassing cold take.

The Panthers signed him to that, not us.

Kind of a long shot unless we keep 4 on the 53. He's not beating out Cook, Davis, or Ty.

He was actually amongst the Top 25 highest rated Undrafted players on ESPN's Big Board. So more than just a joke. Though @LabattBlue joked it was a no brainer for us in the post I made about the top Undrafted before we did it.

Haha you called it!

You heard wrong

Honestly surprised he didn't choose San Francisco.

35 Wide Receivers were Drafted. A really high number - but that speaks to the kind of class it is. I agree though, what's left after those 35 is uninspiring.

I'm more surprised by Gabe Hall going unlocked. Taylor reportedly BOMBED the Pre-Draft process. I was hearing of him careening down Draft boards weeks ahead of the Draft.