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We don't need another Slot. Samuel, Kincaid, Shakir are our top known WR's. All most naturally suited for the Slot. If we were to add anything, it would be someone who would be an upgrade to Hollins or MVS - opposite Coleman.

The ship has passed on any big move like Aiyuk, Adams, or Lamb. When we started the Offseason, analysts listed all the different moves we could do to come up with the most cap space possible. We released, re-structured, or extended everyone we had that was an option to do to get where we could already. Save for two moves: a re-structure of Ed Oliver and Matt Milano. Milano was obviously not done because they wanted to see how he bounced back from injury. Considering what happened to him, they're *definitely* not going to do that now. As for a second Josh re-structure, I wouldn't hold my breath. I don't know why he didn't do the full amount. But if he wanted to take more than he did there, he'd have done it then when we were trying to find money anywhere we could. And he's *never* re-structured a contract twice in the same offseason. We could still restructure Ed Oliver and save 3.9m. Added to what we have, that would bring us to 11.4m. But we have to subtract around 6 from that for the cost of the Practice Squad and the In Season Spending Pool. So even with an Oliver re-structure, we'd only have about 5.5m to spend. The problem with a Trade is that you have to take on the contract from the trading team for the trade to be approved. Meaning if you can't take on the cap hit of their current contract, the trade won't go through with the league. Most people miss this fact and just say "we can renegotiate or extend them and make Year 1 peanuts". That's only something you can do after you've taken on their current deal, without going over the cap. And when it comes to Aiyuk, Adams, and Lamb - we simply don't have the space and can't come up with it to get a trade approved. Exactly this. If we're to add anyone right now, it would be someone from this list. And I'd add Isaiah McKenzie as a possible cut that they may bring in to the Practice Squad in a pinch.

Just from a contract standpoint, that's fairly obvious. They gave Kyle a 1 year deal for 1m with 350k guaranteed. They gave Mitch a 2 year deal worth 3m with 2.7m guaranteed, when they could have re-signed Kyle instead. If Kyle is released and if Mitch isn't ready to roll Week 1, I can see us bringing him back on the Practice Squad and activating him until Mitch is ready. But make no mistake about it, Mitch is our Backup and is going to be our Backup - like it or not.

At the moment, yes. But most teams only keep 2 on the Main Roster these days and he isn't making it over Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. It's almost a forgone conclusion he'll be cut. Either way, the reported issue for Mitch is a 3-4 week injury and Week 1 will be 3 weeks from the injury. Fans who are hoping for something bigger or him to be replaced are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Last thing I saw (tweet from the "Thigh Doctor") suggests he'll probably be ready to go Week 1. If he isn't, they'd probably just grab Kyle Allen back for a week or two after he's let go.

Seems like he's mobile: https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Anthony-Brown-QB-Oregon

Nothing announced beyond his signing.

Just an arm for the Pre-Season with Mitch down. But he'll have a chance to compete with DiNucci for the Practice Squad QB, with Buechele on IR.

If you condense the set, someone is still going to be on the Outside lined up on a Boundary CB.

I get the feeling Tannehill is happy sitting at home and waiting for a starter to get injured or for someone to pay his number. He's not on the couch just hoping for any backup job. If that were the case, someone would have signed him by now.

There's a number of teams in the league that have a starting QB problem. Most teams in the league have an underwhelming Backup QB. That's why they're Backup QB's in a league that doesn't have 32 good starters. @FireChans put it best:

You aren't going to have Samuel, Shakir, and Kincaid split out alone. You can do that in 4 WR sets, but I don't think you'll see it alone. If you do, it won't be a regular thing. Samuel is a Tweener that you can split Out on the perimeter half the time. Shakir and Kincaid are pure slots from the WR position. So you're pretty much always going to have at least one of Coleman and Hollins on the Outside. As to whom has the upper leg as the first Outside guy between the two, I assume it's Coleman. But it may be a 50/50 split to start the year. In standard two WR's on the Outside sets, it'll be One of Coleman and Hollins with Samuel on the other side half the time. The other half it'll be Coleman and Hollins with Samuel on the Inside or out of the Backfield. Nothing about his prior usage or what Beane has said about Samuel suggests he'll be used on the Outside more than 50% of the time. And that's the problem with our current room. Our top 3 known commodities are all best served working out of the Slot. But you can't have more than 2 people working out of the slot at once and even putting 2 on requires 4 WR sets, which you aren't going to regularly run.

Damn. Figured we took a look with Claypool going down and things looking underwhelming outside of the top few guys. Now with MVS taking what looked like at least a bad concussion, I figured we'd re-visit this.

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Again, they paid him approximately 3m guaranteed on a 2 year contract. They aren't giving him even a fraction of the playbook to play with. They know what he is and what he isn't. Did you see Kyle Allen last year? Mitch isn't getting cut. They aren't going to go with a guy who may or may not be slightly better who has to learn the playbook on the fly.

They're starting Andreesen for all 4 quarters at MLB. They really like this kid.

Maybe in the court of fan public opinion. But like poor Pre-Season play from Kyle Allen and Case Keenum before him, the play of a Practice Squad QB (especially one joining the team this late) in the 2nd half of Pre-Season games means nothing. Trubisky has years of experience and was signed to a 2 year, 5.25m dollar contract with about 3m guaranteed. He's not going to be cut for Ben DiNucci.

MVS down. Call back Corey Davis.

The Line is blocking terribly and they aren't opening up the playbook at all. I'm not saying he's great. But the Backups always look like hot garbage in the Pre-Season league wide. Most everyone in the league has a "Backup QB Problem". Hell, a fair amount have a "Starting QB Problem". As I've said a number of times, good QB's don't make it to Free Agency. And the halfway decent backup QB's are going to go to teams that: a.) Are Drafting a QB that may sit a little while where they can be a bridge. b.) Have nothing at QB and can't Draft one and they'll get a shot in a competition. c.) Have someone they've Drafted recently that hasn't really impressed yet. d.) Have a vet who really hasn't looked good lately (like a Daniel Jones) e.) Have a QB who is injured (like Watson) or coming off injury. f.) Have a QB that is often injured. None of these apply. So we'll never be a landing spot for QB's on the market. It just is what it is.

The return game being what it is now, practically no one's done anything impressive league wide the past couple weeks. It seems they're doing all they can to all but eliminate it from the game. I'm not looking to put someone on the roster as a Return guy first and foremost. Do you have a role on Offense or Defense as a non starter? Can we put you back there? The jobs yours.

Definitely seems so. I was just saying it was shocking to me that he was the guy they started as next man up with Bernard sitting. And he is looking good out there. Wild that a Rookie Minicamp Tryout guy looks like he's going straight to the 53.

Joe Andreesen taking all the starting reps at MLB is eye opening. I didn't realize he was impressing that much to be the first guy up with Bernard sitting.

Two. Brett Favre was traded for from Atlanta in the early 90's. And he started pretty early in that 1st year with Green Bay. In the sense that they got lucky and hit on both Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love, it's an ideal situation. But nothing about the Drafting of either of them and the situation leading to them starting should be looked at as an ideal situation for us. Brett was pissed when Aaron was Drafted. He did nothing to "tailor" him as the OP stated he wants and allegedly treated him pretty poorly. It led to a pretty famous contentious exit for Favre that had him retiring, unretiring, and then being traded - claiming they forced him into it. Ending up playing for their Division rival to end their career. Aaron was equally, if not more pissed by the Drafting of Jordan. Begging for help, they Drafted his successor. He treated Jordan the same way Brett did him, doing nothing to help him. Again, leading to his being traded away before wanting to retire. This is definitely not what I or most fans would want or should want for the end of Josh's tenure here and is more of an example of why you don't do it that way then it is that you should.

This isn't the 70's, 80's, or early 90's. You don't groom a QB for years anymore. You lose your QB? You trade for one or you Draft one and you play them. And it's almost unheard of these days to Draft a QB in Round 1 and not play them as a Rookie. That's a big part of the reason why picks like Michael Penix Jr. and Jordan Love were shocking when they were made. Nowadays, all it does is send a message to your QB and the fanbase that they aren't long for the team, whether they like it or not. All this to say, it's not something we should even be thinking about right now or anytime in the near future. Josh has been *knock on wood* relatively healthy. Elite QB's play for a long time these days. He should be a Bill for a lot longer than the amount of time he's already been here. When the time comes that he's ready to retire, then we'll Draft someone. But the thought of "tailoring a QB" under another Star QB is an antiquated idea.

He really wasn't on my radar at all at 60. I guess I was too focused on the top Safety available first and then prospects who our new DB coach had history coaching. My thought process was if they were going to take a Safety in Round 2, it would be Tyler Nubin in the outside chance he fell that far. If not, and more likely, it would be Javon Bullard. I thought Bullard would be there for sure and I was all in on him. When neither were there and they took Bishop, I was surprised. That's funny because to me, that was the most obvious pick. Going into the Draft, I had said time and again that the 1st pick was going to be a WR and then we were going to go Safety and Defensive Tackle in some combination over our next two picks. There was such a massive run on DT's by the time we got to 60, that DeWayne Carter was the top 3T on my board even when we were picking then. I remember thinking "this is a little high for Carter, but there's no way he's going to last until our next pick so we might have to take him here". When he was still on the board at the bottom of Round 3, it was a no brainer to me. I knew he'd be the choice. And honestly, compared to where he went compared to some of the guys who went between 33 and 60, it felt like very good value to me. I remember reading the tweet and thinking "the overall point of this is that he was able to overcome it and find success - but all anyone is going to focus on is the first part".